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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4464680" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>You are aware, I hope, that a glancing blow can cause a physical wound without being the same thing as a sword through your gut? And, because of the way both combat and healing mechanics work in 1e, it is very easy to describe any minor wound as a minor wound. No retcon is ever needed, because the wound will never simply close up because Bruce got a second wind.</p><p></p><p>I mean, if I got hit and took a secondary effect (level drain, say) in 1e, then it meant I was hit. In 4e, what does it mean if you were hit, poisoned, but then lost that damage (but not the secondary effect) in a second wind? Were you really wounded? If not, how were you poisoned? If so, where did the damage go?</p><p></p><p>Surely you didn't find this at all difficult in 1e, if you can master Schrödinger's wounding in 4e without a hitch? Me, I guess I'm dumb, because I have no desire to play around with quantum superpositions every time someone takes "damage".</p><p></p><p>And, here's a prediction -- either 5e or 6e is going to "correct" the Schrödinger's damage problem, and then (and only then) 50% of the people claiming the problem doesn't exist <em>now</em> will be clamouring about the obvious need for a fix <em>then</em>. After all, that's exactly what happened with every problem anyone (myself included) ever pointed out about 3e.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4464680, member: 18280"] You are aware, I hope, that a glancing blow can cause a physical wound without being the same thing as a sword through your gut? And, because of the way both combat and healing mechanics work in 1e, it is very easy to describe any minor wound as a minor wound. No retcon is ever needed, because the wound will never simply close up because Bruce got a second wind. I mean, if I got hit and took a secondary effect (level drain, say) in 1e, then it meant I was hit. In 4e, what does it mean if you were hit, poisoned, but then lost that damage (but not the secondary effect) in a second wind? Were you really wounded? If not, how were you poisoned? If so, where did the damage go? Surely you didn't find this at all difficult in 1e, if you can master Schrödinger's wounding in 4e without a hitch? Me, I guess I'm dumb, because I have no desire to play around with quantum superpositions every time someone takes "damage". And, here's a prediction -- either 5e or 6e is going to "correct" the Schrödinger's damage problem, and then (and only then) 50% of the people claiming the problem doesn't exist [i]now[/i] will be clamouring about the obvious need for a fix [i]then[/i]. After all, that's exactly what happened with every problem anyone (myself included) ever pointed out about 3e. RC [/QUOTE]
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