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<blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 4470310" data-attributes="member: 11300">I would not label it a war. It has been a debate which has been on the whole pretty civil. I don't think anyone has disrespected anyone else on either side of the fence here. If anything, I think respect has been garnered for those with opposing views - with the general concensus being to agree to disagree; some interesting points having been shared.This would make an interesting power - representing a fighter's ability to just &quot;suck it up&quot; while they do something suitably heroic (such as dash through some flames, or try to get through a hail of arrows). However, it fits in firmly with the 4E Black Box ethos and so does not really help groups who don't play that way. &nbsp;To be honest neither or more specifically, somewhere in the middle. All editions have had rules that suck or that make no sense, and get suitably house-ruled or ignored as suits. However, 4E as a whole has extracted a lot of simulation out of the game. It has been a deliberate attempt to err on the side of &quot;that doesn't make sense&quot; rather than &quot;that kinda sucks&quot; gameplay-wise. That does not jive with a lot of people who like their gameworld to make sense though. I think that's pretty much the lay of the land at present.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herremann the Wise, post: 4470310, member: 11300"] I would not label it a war. It has been a debate which has been on the whole pretty civil. I don't think anyone has disrespected anyone else on either side of the fence here. If anything, I think respect has been garnered for those with opposing views - with the general concensus being to agree to disagree; some interesting points having been shared. This would make an interesting power - representing a fighter's ability to just "suck it up" while they do something suitably heroic (such as dash through some flames, or try to get through a hail of arrows). However, it fits in firmly with the 4E Black Box ethos and so does not really help groups who don't play that way. To be honest neither or more specifically, somewhere in the middle. All editions have had rules that suck or that make no sense, and get suitably house-ruled or ignored as suits. However, 4E as a whole has extracted a lot of simulation out of the game. It has been a deliberate attempt to err on the side of "that doesn't make sense" rather than "that kinda sucks" gameplay-wise. That does not jive with a lot of people who like their gameworld to make sense though. I think that's pretty much the lay of the land at present. Best Regards Herremann the Wise [/QUOTE]

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