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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 1537942" data-attributes="member: 1622">Ok, people, stop using Chain spell as a reason why this spell is broken.  Chain Spell is broken.  Evaluate Fleshshiver on its own, or with core metamagic, not with 3.0 non-core crap that everyone knows is overpowered.ALL the Power Word spells are pretty crappy.  Don't compare the spell to crappy spells, that's not a valid comparison.  The problem is that there really aren't any good 4th or 5th level damage/incapacitating spells.I think that a 1st level spell which gives a Will save to negate 1 round of stunning proves that a 5th level spell giving one round of stunning with no save is fine.  The fact that Heighten Spell can make a 1st level spell pretty much as good as this 5th level one, tells me it can't be that bad, because heighten spell sucks.I seriously can't believe that being stunned for one round spells death in any reasonable campaign.  I've been *held* for a few rounds before, and didn't even come that close to dying.  If you have allies, they'll protect you until you're safe again... if you're all on your own.... you're an idiot.  Seriously, I almost never see one single big bad guy with no minions any more.  It's always the big guy and his half a dozen flunkies.-The Souljourner</blockquote>