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<blockquote data-quote="fenzer" data-source="post: 2084741" data-attributes="member: 506"><p>First let me apologize if this topic has come up before. The search feature is currently on the fritz and my search to this point has yielded little.</p><p></p><p>This came up in our last game where my warforged juggernaut was scooped to safety from the deck of a failing airship by the strong tallons of a griffon. While I'm greatful to the griffon (and the DM for that matter), I believe that my warforged and the paladin and his poor griffon should have plummitted to the water far below.</p><p></p><p>Out of this event, this question arose, at what point (read load) does a flying mount loose its ability to fly?</p><p></p><p>Early in my search I found this reading from the sage himself in his Rules of the Game, All About Movement Part 5. He states, and I paraphrase, that any creature capable of flight cannot do so if encumbered. So, if you try and fly with any load other than light, you are out of luck.</p><p></p><p>I am okay with this but would feel better if any of you could confirm it.</p><p></p><p>Also, how do you determine what a light load is for a large winged quadriped? Is the load based on what it can bear on four legs or do you take into consideration the fact that in flight it is only using its wings? Strenght is strength but 4 legs vs 2 wings? I don't know. The PHB states that a large quadriped can bear a load three times greater than the amount listed for its strength. The PHB also states that a large biped (closer to a pair of wings if you ask me) can lift two times the amount listed on the table for its strength. And no, the PHB nor the DMG offer any suggestions. So which is it? And why in the hell is this information so dern hard to find? </p><p></p><p>Ya, this may be a little nit-pick on my part but I am curious what you folks are doing in this situation. </p><p></p><p>So, are we all in agreement that you cannot fly if your load is greater than light? And do you determine load based on legs or wings? </p><p></p><p>Thanks for the help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fenzer, post: 2084741, member: 506"] First let me apologize if this topic has come up before. The search feature is currently on the fritz and my search to this point has yielded little. This came up in our last game where my warforged juggernaut was scooped to safety from the deck of a failing airship by the strong tallons of a griffon. While I'm greatful to the griffon (and the DM for that matter), I believe that my warforged and the paladin and his poor griffon should have plummitted to the water far below. Out of this event, this question arose, at what point (read load) does a flying mount loose its ability to fly? Early in my search I found this reading from the sage himself in his Rules of the Game, All About Movement Part 5. He states, and I paraphrase, that any creature capable of flight cannot do so if encumbered. So, if you try and fly with any load other than light, you are out of luck. I am okay with this but would feel better if any of you could confirm it. Also, how do you determine what a light load is for a large winged quadriped? Is the load based on what it can bear on four legs or do you take into consideration the fact that in flight it is only using its wings? Strenght is strength but 4 legs vs 2 wings? I don't know. The PHB states that a large quadriped can bear a load three times greater than the amount listed for its strength. The PHB also states that a large biped (closer to a pair of wings if you ask me) can lift two times the amount listed on the table for its strength. And no, the PHB nor the DMG offer any suggestions. So which is it? And why in the hell is this information so dern hard to find? Ya, this may be a little nit-pick on my part but I am curious what you folks are doing in this situation. So, are we all in agreement that you cannot fly if your load is greater than light? And do you determine load based on legs or wings? Thanks for the help. [/QUOTE]
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