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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8490629" data-attributes="member: 7032025">Apart from the fact that I don't believe that the God of Deceiving Appearances would create a &quot;strong race&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(:" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; (:"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname="(:" />)), you are totally correct. For example, look at the Redcap, they are small and incredibly strong, with even a specific ability called &quot;outsize strength&quot;, and it causes no problem of verisimilitude because they are Fey. So by all means, create a half-madcap race, small but with huge strength for its fey ancestry. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Unfortunately, the people who really have problems with the concept of fantasy races/species (which, again, is a very misguided view in my opinion) make a huge amalgam of it, and this is where the problem really lies. From potential (and I'm insisting on this, we never, ever have had this problem in France, where orcs and drows are cool and even uber-cool for everyone) stereotypes on exactly 2 fantasy races, they extrapolate huge problems with everything lined to race and just want to get rid of them, starting by slandering the whole thing and trying to minimise the impact that they have on the game.And my point is &quot;why would we ever need to ?&quot;And I have a problem with it. It's fantasy. People want to play more than what used to be called demi-humans and rejoice in playing goblins and minotaurs, etc. But at the same time, some people want to eradicate the differences, because otherwise it's &quot;not fair&quot;, even though there is not even the slightest hint of real world stereotyping in there. People are even starting to hate the very word of &quot;stereotype&quot; while at the same time saying that they want to play a game which is literally built through stereotypes, class, race, background, cultural origin, all of these have been stereotypes since the beginning of the game and in their immense majority, they have harmed absolutely no-one.Fantasy races have always been a part of fantasy, and the more diverse the better. If some people are happy removing them from their games, fine, but IMHO it just makes it way more bland and it's again a case of &quot;let me tell you how to play your game&quot;...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8490629, member: 7032025"] Apart from the fact that I don't believe that the God of Deceiving Appearances would create a "strong race" (:)), you are totally correct. For example, look at the Redcap, they are small and incredibly strong, with even a specific ability called "outsize strength", and it causes no problem of verisimilitude because they are Fey. So by all means, create a half-madcap race, small but with huge strength for its fey ancestry. :) Unfortunately, the people who really have problems with the concept of fantasy races/species (which, again, is a very misguided view in my opinion) make a huge amalgam of it, and this is where the problem really lies. From potential (and I'm insisting on this, we never, ever have had this problem in France, where orcs and drows are cool and even uber-cool for everyone) stereotypes on exactly 2 fantasy races, they extrapolate huge problems with everything lined to race and just want to get rid of them, starting by slandering the whole thing and trying to minimise the impact that they have on the game. And my point is "why would we ever need to ?" And I have a problem with it. It's fantasy. People want to play more than what used to be called demi-humans and rejoice in playing goblins and minotaurs, etc. But at the same time, some people want to eradicate the differences, because otherwise it's "not fair", even though there is not even the slightest hint of real world stereotyping in there. People are even starting to hate the very word of "stereotype" while at the same time saying that they want to play a game which is literally built through stereotypes, class, race, background, cultural origin, all of these have been stereotypes since the beginning of the game and in their immense majority, they have harmed absolutely no-one. Fantasy races have always been a part of fantasy, and the more diverse the better. If some people are happy removing them from their games, fine, but IMHO it just makes it way more bland and it's again a case of "let me tell you how to play your game"... [/QUOTE]

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