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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 3724412" data-attributes="member: 94">Well, fireball isn't a save negates spell. The save-for-half spells are much more granular. They have a variable amount of damage (variable effect), AND they have some effect regardless of the outcome of the save.The "expected efficacy" graph of Fireball looks VERY different from the "expected efficacy" graph of Deep Slumber, which also has a much different expected efficacy than Stinking Cloud. (Stinking Cloud, at least, helps control the battlefield by sticking around...)Those spells graph VERY differently when you start looking at batch saving throws. With batch saving throws, Fireball remains a curve, because the damage is a curve. The other two spells are hammered flat by batch saving throws. They are either 100% effecitive against 100% of the enemy, or they are 0% effective against 100% of the enemy.It's just not feasible. It is obviously bad design. Mearls is not a bad designer. Ergo, this is NOT what we will see. As others have stated, you will most likely see some kind of granularity built into every spell effect.</blockquote>