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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 3724773" data-attributes="member: 94">To hear some folks you'd think Fireball was only ever used against &quot;mooks.&quot;1d6 damage per caster level, assuming a group of targets who are roughly your equal, is going to average out to some serious damage. All of the Evocation spells scale so well with caster level that they are almost always a good opening or finishing spell against opponents who have about the same number of hit dice as you have caster levels.If my adventuring party rounds the corner and finds itself facing down an evil adventuring party, the exact (but evil!) mirror image of my own, I'd definitely consider a fireball a worthy contribution to the fight. Likewise, is there anybody in our heroic party that particularly relishes the thought of being Fireballed by my evil twin? Show of hands?I'd bank on that! The description of &quot;25th level spells&quot; leads me to believe that there will be far fewer &quot;spells&quot; (probably grouped into themes or templates) and that they will have a variable effect based on a spellcasting roll, or your caster level, or both. To me, a &quot;25th level spell&quot; simply means, &quot;A spell cast at 25th caster level of power.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 3724773, member: 94"] To hear some folks you'd think Fireball was only ever used against "mooks." 1d6 damage per caster level, assuming a group of targets who are roughly your equal, is going to average out to some serious damage. All of the Evocation spells scale so well with caster level that they are almost always a good opening or finishing spell against opponents who have about the same number of hit dice as you have caster levels. If my adventuring party rounds the corner and finds itself facing down an evil adventuring party, the exact (but evil!) mirror image of my own, I'd definitely consider a fireball a worthy contribution to the fight. Likewise, is there anybody in our heroic party that particularly relishes the thought of being Fireballed by my evil twin? Show of hands? I'd bank on that! The description of "25th level spells" leads me to believe that there will be far fewer "spells" (probably grouped into themes or templates) and that they will have a variable effect based on a spellcasting roll, or your caster level, or both. To me, a "25th level spell" simply means, "A spell cast at 25th caster level of power." [/QUOTE]

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