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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7750559" data-attributes="member: 996">I'm glad you were so delighted by 13th Age in 2013.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; But, why'd you ever leave, when there were so many grid-free games to choose from, already?&nbsp; Did you really jump ship the moment D&amp;D went 'on the grid,' with 2e C&amp;T?&nbsp;Yep. And that's profoundly unrealistic.&nbsp; You fight at 100%, even after taking 88 of your 89 hps when that huge ancient red dragon breathed on you, but if you take 3 more hps from some burning oil, you are now so badly burned that you die in 8 minutes, unless someone wraps a few bandages around you?Assuming they do, you'll be utterly incapacitated for a week, no matter how many cure critical wounds spells get cast on you, but after tgat week in the penalty box, you're at 100% again?&nbsp; No chance of any permanent disability, even if you took the weeks to heal naturally?Saying anything is 'more unrealistic' than that is prettymuch meaningless.&nbsp; And, as always, when we start flogging D&amp;D on 'realism' grounds, we should really be able it cut it some slack for modeling a genre that is unrealistic by it's very nature.&nbsp; Its easy to forget that, since D&amp;D doesn't model fantasy any better than it does reality, but we really /should/ cut it some slack in the realism department, anyway.&nbsp; And, if we have to cut one ed 60 squares of slack rather than 30 scale inches (or 10, outdoors) or 300', we shouldn't quibble over the difference.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7750559, member: 996"] I'm glad you were so delighted by 13th Age in 2013. ;) But, why'd you ever leave, when there were so many grid-free games to choose from, already? Did you really jump ship the moment D&D went 'on the grid,' with 2e C&T? Yep. And that's profoundly unrealistic. You fight at 100%, even after taking 88 of your 89 hps when that huge ancient red dragon breathed on you, but if you take 3 more hps from some burning oil, you are now so badly burned that you die in 8 minutes, unless someone wraps a few bandages around you? Assuming they do, you'll be utterly incapacitated for a week, no matter how many cure critical wounds spells get cast on you, but after tgat week in the penalty box, you're at 100% again? No chance of any permanent disability, even if you took the weeks to heal naturally? Saying anything is 'more unrealistic' than that is prettymuch meaningless. And, as always, when we start flogging D&D on 'realism' grounds, we should really be able it cut it some slack for modeling a genre that is unrealistic by it's very nature. Its easy to forget that, since D&D doesn't model fantasy any better than it does reality, but we really /should/ cut it some slack in the realism department, anyway. And, if we have to cut one ed 60 squares of slack rather than 30 scale inches (or 10, outdoors) or 300', we shouldn't quibble over the difference. [/QUOTE]

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