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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7349618" data-attributes="member: 6880599"><p>Short answer is "Yes you can multiclass, its not a problem", why?</p><p></p><p>1. Deities and Patrons are not the same thing. Deities are beings of supreme power and Patrons are usually lesser beings vying for more power or to support the goals for greater power or for a greater power. As long as those goals align you are not worshipping two deities so there is no conflict.</p><p></p><p>Example: If you were a Cleric of Ioun sent on a mission to the Shadow Fey to fight the undead armies of Vecna then ran across a general of the Raven Queen carrying a Hexblade and “Knighting” warlocks to hunt and kills the Vampire or Lich Generals of Vecna. The General and his HexBlade might be convinced to grant you power in service of the Raven Queen on the understanding that you vow to take special effort to destroy the Undead Vampire and Lich abominations where you can. This is not a vow of service to the Raven Queen, you are a Servent of Ioun, but while The Raven Queen and Ioun are not “allies” they are not enemies ether and their mutual hatred of Vecna against whom they are both sworn enemies means as long as you are attacking him you may gain support from both. You are not getting direct power from the Raven Queen as her cleric or Paladin but power from her servant the Hexblade that is an embodiment of the extinction of her will in physical form and as such you are granted power from this lesser “being” to further its goal to fulfill its mission to the Raven Queen. </p><p></p><p>2. Patrons who Serve or want the favor of Deities would willingly work together. </p><p></p><p>Example: Lest say you’re a Nature Cleric of Deity X and run across an Arch Fey. It would be in the interest of the Arch Fey to provide aid and perhaps even empower you as a warlock in order to push itself into the affairs of the Deity in a positive way. If you succeed in part for Arch Fey’s assistance it might elevate the Arch Fey in the eyes of the deity and be granted enough power to break from Arch Fey into a Demi Deity in service of your Deity.</p><p></p><p>3. “The Old One” patron is perhaps the only patron of Deity level power but is in fact so powerful that it creates warlocks by accident do to breaches in or siphoning of, its power. The result is that you can be a warlock with power to aid you a task supported by your Deity and have no obligations, attachment, or even awareness of your patron. In fact you may have achieved your pact by touching an item and absorbing it power without knowing its happened and be a warlock while thinking you are a part sorcerer from wild, storm, or shadow magic.</p><p></p><p>4. It is also understand able that you might want to undo a mistake or try to fight the corruption of a “dark power” as often warlocks are considered.</p><p></p><p>Example: Maybe during your youth, in order to break from your peasant servitude you made a deal with a fiend. As its demands of you become darker and more evil you realize you can obey and can’t cast the power aside. The Fiend now hunting you to enforce its pact or take it power back from your dead corpse, you turn to the Good/Neutral Deity of X swearing loyalty and servitude for protection and to suppress the power inside you from growing even more. The Deity accepts you as a Cleric or Paladin while allowing you to use your unique talents because as long as your mission is its mission then you holding on to power only aids your new Deity while diminishing your Warlock patron and preventing it from using the power it gave you to strengthen itself or make a new warlock. </p><p>(Think, Spawn form Image comics working with the Church to fight the Devil, while using the powers the Devil gave him to kill demons that hunt him and others, occasionally with the aid of angels and clergy. You are the outsider inside fighting the good fight.)</p><p></p><p>… Just a few options, I am sure there are plenty more but it’s a good start for ideas. If you make a secret deal with a fiend while following a good/neutral Deity... might cause you some issues though it doesn't stop if from happening ... as a GM I might make you replace some cleric levels with warlock levels and/or require a quest to regain your Deities favor to normalize or progress as a cleric.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7349618, member: 6880599"] Short answer is "Yes you can multiclass, its not a problem", why? 1. Deities and Patrons are not the same thing. Deities are beings of supreme power and Patrons are usually lesser beings vying for more power or to support the goals for greater power or for a greater power. As long as those goals align you are not worshipping two deities so there is no conflict. Example: If you were a Cleric of Ioun sent on a mission to the Shadow Fey to fight the undead armies of Vecna then ran across a general of the Raven Queen carrying a Hexblade and “Knighting” warlocks to hunt and kills the Vampire or Lich Generals of Vecna. The General and his HexBlade might be convinced to grant you power in service of the Raven Queen on the understanding that you vow to take special effort to destroy the Undead Vampire and Lich abominations where you can. This is not a vow of service to the Raven Queen, you are a Servent of Ioun, but while The Raven Queen and Ioun are not “allies” they are not enemies ether and their mutual hatred of Vecna against whom they are both sworn enemies means as long as you are attacking him you may gain support from both. You are not getting direct power from the Raven Queen as her cleric or Paladin but power from her servant the Hexblade that is an embodiment of the extinction of her will in physical form and as such you are granted power from this lesser “being” to further its goal to fulfill its mission to the Raven Queen. 2. Patrons who Serve or want the favor of Deities would willingly work together. Example: Lest say you’re a Nature Cleric of Deity X and run across an Arch Fey. It would be in the interest of the Arch Fey to provide aid and perhaps even empower you as a warlock in order to push itself into the affairs of the Deity in a positive way. If you succeed in part for Arch Fey’s assistance it might elevate the Arch Fey in the eyes of the deity and be granted enough power to break from Arch Fey into a Demi Deity in service of your Deity. 3. “The Old One” patron is perhaps the only patron of Deity level power but is in fact so powerful that it creates warlocks by accident do to breaches in or siphoning of, its power. The result is that you can be a warlock with power to aid you a task supported by your Deity and have no obligations, attachment, or even awareness of your patron. In fact you may have achieved your pact by touching an item and absorbing it power without knowing its happened and be a warlock while thinking you are a part sorcerer from wild, storm, or shadow magic. 4. It is also understand able that you might want to undo a mistake or try to fight the corruption of a “dark power” as often warlocks are considered. Example: Maybe during your youth, in order to break from your peasant servitude you made a deal with a fiend. As its demands of you become darker and more evil you realize you can obey and can’t cast the power aside. The Fiend now hunting you to enforce its pact or take it power back from your dead corpse, you turn to the Good/Neutral Deity of X swearing loyalty and servitude for protection and to suppress the power inside you from growing even more. The Deity accepts you as a Cleric or Paladin while allowing you to use your unique talents because as long as your mission is its mission then you holding on to power only aids your new Deity while diminishing your Warlock patron and preventing it from using the power it gave you to strengthen itself or make a new warlock. (Think, Spawn form Image comics working with the Church to fight the Devil, while using the powers the Devil gave him to kill demons that hunt him and others, occasionally with the aid of angels and clergy. You are the outsider inside fighting the good fight.) … Just a few options, I am sure there are plenty more but it’s a good start for ideas. If you make a secret deal with a fiend while following a good/neutral Deity... might cause you some issues though it doesn't stop if from happening ... as a GM I might make you replace some cleric levels with warlock levels and/or require a quest to regain your Deities favor to normalize or progress as a cleric. [/QUOTE]
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