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<blockquote data-quote="Demogorge" data-source="post: 76466" data-attributes="member: 1036"><p>Grapples dont work exactly like attacks. The number of grapple attempts you get is based strictly on your BAB, so a 6th level ranger would get 2 grapple attempts despite his ambidexterity. Similarly, monsters with multiple natural weapons don't get to use all of their attacks for grapple checks, only an amount allowed by their BAB. So a hypothetical monster with a BAB of 6 and a bite and 4 claws would only get 2 grapple checks (+6/+1) and not 4 or 5. </p><p></p><p>Monks CAN use their unarmed attack bonus (UAB) rate for grapple checks (go monks!) but a flurry of blows would not give them any more because it's the equivalent of Ambidexterity+TWF for monks.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>No it's the same amount of grapple checks as above. Monks are still amazing grapplers because of their unarmed damage and UAB progression.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Most monk abilities are supernatural and would be lost while polymorphed, but flurry of blows is not. Just think of it as an unarmed ambidexterity+twf. Just as the Ranger gets those feats for free (with restrictions), so does the monk. So yes you would retain the flurry while polymorphed. </p><p></p><p>HOWEVER, your dm may rule that the natural weapons of another form are not Monk weapons, so you can't flurry. This topic is not covered anywhere that I have seen.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>You always inherit the attack forms of the new form as long as they are not supernatural/spell-like/etc. So you don't suffer two-weapon penalties or anything even if you are not a monk. Still, you need to cover the natural weapons = unarmed question.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Stunning attack and ki strike are supernatural so you would not keep those or any other supernatural abilities in the new form (See the Polymorph Other description).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Demogorge, post: 76466, member: 1036"] Grapples dont work exactly like attacks. The number of grapple attempts you get is based strictly on your BAB, so a 6th level ranger would get 2 grapple attempts despite his ambidexterity. Similarly, monsters with multiple natural weapons don't get to use all of their attacks for grapple checks, only an amount allowed by their BAB. So a hypothetical monster with a BAB of 6 and a bite and 4 claws would only get 2 grapple checks (+6/+1) and not 4 or 5. Monks CAN use their unarmed attack bonus (UAB) rate for grapple checks (go monks!) but a flurry of blows would not give them any more because it's the equivalent of Ambidexterity+TWF for monks. No it's the same amount of grapple checks as above. Monks are still amazing grapplers because of their unarmed damage and UAB progression. Most monk abilities are supernatural and would be lost while polymorphed, but flurry of blows is not. Just think of it as an unarmed ambidexterity+twf. Just as the Ranger gets those feats for free (with restrictions), so does the monk. So yes you would retain the flurry while polymorphed. HOWEVER, your dm may rule that the natural weapons of another form are not Monk weapons, so you can't flurry. This topic is not covered anywhere that I have seen. You always inherit the attack forms of the new form as long as they are not supernatural/spell-like/etc. So you don't suffer two-weapon penalties or anything even if you are not a monk. Still, you need to cover the natural weapons = unarmed question. Stunning attack and ki strike are supernatural so you would not keep those or any other supernatural abilities in the new form (See the Polymorph Other description). [/QUOTE]
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