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Flurry of Blows and Two Weapon Fighting
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<blockquote data-quote="Tessarael" data-source="post: 1064744" data-attributes="member: 12909"><p>Here are the attacks:</p><p></p><p>+15/+15/+15/+10/+5 - Monk 20 Flurry</p><p>+13/+8/+3, +13/+8/+3 - Monk 20 TWF</p><p></p><p>+13/+13/+13/+8/+3, +13/+8/+3 - Monk 20 Flurry + TWF</p><p></p><p>Let's assume a Flaming Quarterstaff +5 wielding Monk with Strength 22, so damages of:</p><p></p><p>2d6+5+6 = 18 avg in main hand</p><p>2d6+5+3 = 15 avg in off hand</p><p></p><p>I'm going to ignore criticals and assume opponent ACs of 16, 21, 26, and 31.</p><p></p><p>vs AC 16 opponent:</p><p></p><p>96.75 damage from Flurry + TWF</p><p>76.5 damage from Flurry only</p><p>64.35 damage from TWF only</p><p></p><p>vs AC 21 opponent:</p><p></p><p>63.0 damage from Flurry + TWF</p><p>54.0 damage from Flurry only</p><p>39.6 damage from TWF only</p><p></p><p>vs AC 26 opponent:</p><p></p><p>34.2 damage from Flurry + TWF</p><p>32.4 damage from Flurry only</p><p>19.8 damage from TWF only</p><p></p><p>vs AC 31 opponent:</p><p></p><p>13.65 damage from Flurry + TWF</p><p>15.3 damage from Flurry only</p><p>8.25 damage from TWF only</p><p></p><p>Flurry is clearly better than two-weapon fighting (TWF). Is it unbalanced? Let's compared to the TWF scenario, but now let's make it a 20th level Fighter instead, with attacks of +18/+13/+8/+3 and +18/+13/+8 with TWF:</p><p></p><p>89.7 damage vs AC 16</p><p>67.05 damage vs AC 21</p><p>40.5 damage vs AC 26</p><p>20.7 damage vs AC 31</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, the 20th level Fighter should be better. I don't like the fact that the TWF/Flurry Monk comes out better at AC 16. Other than that, 20th level Monk TWF/Flurry doesn't seem overpowering compared to a 20th level Fighter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tessarael, post: 1064744, member: 12909"] Here are the attacks: +15/+15/+15/+10/+5 - Monk 20 Flurry +13/+8/+3, +13/+8/+3 - Monk 20 TWF +13/+13/+13/+8/+3, +13/+8/+3 - Monk 20 Flurry + TWF Let's assume a Flaming Quarterstaff +5 wielding Monk with Strength 22, so damages of: 2d6+5+6 = 18 avg in main hand 2d6+5+3 = 15 avg in off hand I'm going to ignore criticals and assume opponent ACs of 16, 21, 26, and 31. vs AC 16 opponent: 96.75 damage from Flurry + TWF 76.5 damage from Flurry only 64.35 damage from TWF only vs AC 21 opponent: 63.0 damage from Flurry + TWF 54.0 damage from Flurry only 39.6 damage from TWF only vs AC 26 opponent: 34.2 damage from Flurry + TWF 32.4 damage from Flurry only 19.8 damage from TWF only vs AC 31 opponent: 13.65 damage from Flurry + TWF 15.3 damage from Flurry only 8.25 damage from TWF only Flurry is clearly better than two-weapon fighting (TWF). Is it unbalanced? Let's compared to the TWF scenario, but now let's make it a 20th level Fighter instead, with attacks of +18/+13/+8/+3 and +18/+13/+8 with TWF: 89.7 damage vs AC 16 67.05 damage vs AC 21 40.5 damage vs AC 26 20.7 damage vs AC 31 In my opinion, the 20th level Fighter should be better. I don't like the fact that the TWF/Flurry Monk comes out better at AC 16. Other than that, 20th level Monk TWF/Flurry doesn't seem overpowering compared to a 20th level Fighter. [/QUOTE]
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