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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1065159" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>From Andy Collins on the Wizards Boards:</p><p></p><p>3) TWF and Flurry of Blows stacks? </p><p></p><p>A: No </p><p></p><p>4) IIRC, the monk gains his 2nd Flurry attack at 11th level. If, at that point, he decided to multiclass into Fighter (since his BAB is no longer different from normal BAB) would he have 6 attacks at 17th level? </p><p></p><p>A: Flurry no longer uses a separate BAB. If the Ftr/Mnk's BAB was +16 or higher, he'd have 6 attacks when he flurried. </p><p></p><p>5) IF no. 3 and no. 4 answers are yes. COuld a monk 12/Ftr5 with the TWF tree, have 9 attacks with his quartterstaff? </p><p></p><p>A: No--they don't stack. </p><p></p><p>------</p><p></p><p>From Skip Williams, email to Olgar Shiverstone:</p><p></p><p><< Can a monk use Two-Weapon Fighting (or Improved Two Weapon Fighting) in conjunction with Flurry of Blows to gain an extra attack, >></p><p></p><p></p><p>No.</p><p></p><p>>>or to reduce the penalties for the Flurry of Blows?>></p><p></p><p></p><p>No.</p><p></p><p><< I'm fairly certain the spirit of the rules didn't intend for these abilities to work together, but I can't find anything in the rules that would prohibit it >></p><p></p><p>When you use a flurry, you can use a specil monk weapon once as part the flurry. If you use two weapons with a flurry, you use each weapon once as part of the flurry (a quaterstaff is a double weapon and counts as two weapons). You do not get an extra attack for the second weaoon, nor do you suffer any of the usual penalties for attaking with two weapons.</p><p></p><p>A monk can fight with two weapons and use the varius two-wepoan fighting feats, but the number of attacks the monk gets is based on the monk's normal base attack bonus and number of attacks, not on the monk's number of attacks in a flurry.</p><p></p><p>------</p><p></p><p>From WotC Customer Service:</p><p></p><p>-- When a Monk uses a Quarterstaff, two weapon fighting, and Flurry of Blows does he get an extra attack from the flurry, and an extra attack from the Two Weapon fighting, taking a -4 to hit with all attacks,,, or can he not use both in one round???</p><p></p><p>The Monk may use the both attacks, plus the flurry of blows, if he or she wishes. _They Monk will suffer the cumulative to-hit penalties, however.</p><p></p><p>Adam</p><p>Wizards of the Coast - Game Support</p><p></p><p>------</p><p></p><p>So, the Sage says they don't stack, which is a point in favour of "They don't stack".</p><p></p><p>The lead designer for 3.5 says they don't stack, which is a big point in favour of "They don't stack".</p><p></p><p>And Customer Service says they <em>do</em> stack, which is the <em>biggest</em> point in favour of "They don't stack"...</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1065159, member: 1656"] From Andy Collins on the Wizards Boards: 3) TWF and Flurry of Blows stacks? A: No 4) IIRC, the monk gains his 2nd Flurry attack at 11th level. If, at that point, he decided to multiclass into Fighter (since his BAB is no longer different from normal BAB) would he have 6 attacks at 17th level? A: Flurry no longer uses a separate BAB. If the Ftr/Mnk's BAB was +16 or higher, he'd have 6 attacks when he flurried. 5) IF no. 3 and no. 4 answers are yes. COuld a monk 12/Ftr5 with the TWF tree, have 9 attacks with his quartterstaff? A: No--they don't stack. ------ From Skip Williams, email to Olgar Shiverstone: << Can a monk use Two-Weapon Fighting (or Improved Two Weapon Fighting) in conjunction with Flurry of Blows to gain an extra attack, >> No. >>or to reduce the penalties for the Flurry of Blows?>> No. << I'm fairly certain the spirit of the rules didn't intend for these abilities to work together, but I can't find anything in the rules that would prohibit it >> When you use a flurry, you can use a specil monk weapon once as part the flurry. If you use two weapons with a flurry, you use each weapon once as part of the flurry (a quaterstaff is a double weapon and counts as two weapons). You do not get an extra attack for the second weaoon, nor do you suffer any of the usual penalties for attaking with two weapons. A monk can fight with two weapons and use the varius two-wepoan fighting feats, but the number of attacks the monk gets is based on the monk's normal base attack bonus and number of attacks, not on the monk's number of attacks in a flurry. ------ From WotC Customer Service: -- When a Monk uses a Quarterstaff, two weapon fighting, and Flurry of Blows does he get an extra attack from the flurry, and an extra attack from the Two Weapon fighting, taking a -4 to hit with all attacks,,, or can he not use both in one round??? The Monk may use the both attacks, plus the flurry of blows, if he or she wishes. _They Monk will suffer the cumulative to-hit penalties, however. Adam Wizards of the Coast - Game Support ------ So, the Sage says they don't stack, which is a point in favour of "They don't stack". The lead designer for 3.5 says they don't stack, which is a big point in favour of "They don't stack". And Customer Service says they [i]do[/i] stack, which is the [i]biggest[/i] point in favour of "They don't stack"... -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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