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Flurry of Blows to initiate a Grapple?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 3198937" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>I'm in 100% agreement with the FAQ here.</p><p></p><p>WotC is notoriously inconsistent in their use of language...so don't get hung up on the Unarmed Strike/Unarmed Attack dichotomy. IMHO, it is a false one.</p><p></p><p>In the monk description, they talk about the monk's <strong>unarmed strike</strong> & its use in FoB on pages 40-41 of the PHB.</p><p></p><p>However, also on p 41 of the PHB, the monk is repeatedly referred to as having <strong>unarmed attacks</strong>:</p><p></p><p></p><p>(<em>emphasis mine</em>)</p><p></p><p>Additionally, unarmed strikes (which, regardless of inconsistencies, Monks do have, and they are clearly "monk weapons" as well or they could not be used in FoB) are explicitly listed as weapons on the chart, so there's no reason to exclude them from the FAQ's list.</p><p></p><p>So.</p><p></p><p>Unless you rule that <em>Ki</em> Strikes cannot be used with FoB because they apply to unarmed attacks and not unarmed strikes, there is no logical reason why grapples cannot also be used in FoB, as per the FAQ.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 3198937, member: 19675"] I'm in 100% agreement with the FAQ here. WotC is notoriously inconsistent in their use of language...so don't get hung up on the Unarmed Strike/Unarmed Attack dichotomy. IMHO, it is a false one. In the monk description, they talk about the monk's [b]unarmed strike[/b] & its use in FoB on pages 40-41 of the PHB. However, also on p 41 of the PHB, the monk is repeatedly referred to as having [b]unarmed attacks[/b]: ([i]emphasis mine[/i]) Additionally, unarmed strikes (which, regardless of inconsistencies, Monks do have, and they are clearly "monk weapons" as well or they could not be used in FoB) are explicitly listed as weapons on the chart, so there's no reason to exclude them from the FAQ's list. So. Unless you rule that [i]Ki[/i] Strikes cannot be used with FoB because they apply to unarmed attacks and not unarmed strikes, there is no logical reason why grapples cannot also be used in FoB, as per the FAQ. [/QUOTE]
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