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Flurry of Blows to initiate a Grapple?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3199031" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Any attack made with an unarmed strike is an unarmed attack. However, not every unarmed attack is an attack made with an unarmed strike.</p><p></p><p>Analogy: Any attack made with a kama is an armed attack. However, not every armed attack is an attack made with a kama.</p><p></p><p>Let's say that a monk has a Ki Weapon ability, that says any attack he makes with a weapon bypasses DR X/Lawful. Swings a longsword? Beats DR X/Lawful. Does this mean he cannot use Ki Weapon in a Flurry of Blows, since it applies to 'attacks with weapons', not 'attacks with special monk weapons'? Not at all. Any attack with a weapon he makes as part of a Flurry of Blows benefits. It's just that he can't make an attack with a weapon that is not a special monk weapon as part of a Flurry of Blows.</p><p></p><p>Any unarmed attack the monk makes benefits from Ki Strike, whether it is made with an unarmed strike or not. However, in a Flurry of Blows, the only unarmed attacks the monk can make are unarmed strikes.</p><p></p><p>Is grapple an unarmed attack? Certainly; it will benefit from Ki Strike and bypass DR X/Lawful. Can it be performed as part of a Flurry of Blows? No; it is neither an attack with an unarmed strike, nor an attack with a special monk weapon.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3199031, member: 1656"] Any attack made with an unarmed strike is an unarmed attack. However, not every unarmed attack is an attack made with an unarmed strike. Analogy: Any attack made with a kama is an armed attack. However, not every armed attack is an attack made with a kama. Let's say that a monk has a Ki Weapon ability, that says any attack he makes with a weapon bypasses DR X/Lawful. Swings a longsword? Beats DR X/Lawful. Does this mean he cannot use Ki Weapon in a Flurry of Blows, since it applies to 'attacks with weapons', not 'attacks with special monk weapons'? Not at all. Any attack with a weapon he makes as part of a Flurry of Blows benefits. It's just that he can't make an attack with a weapon that is not a special monk weapon as part of a Flurry of Blows. Any unarmed attack the monk makes benefits from Ki Strike, whether it is made with an unarmed strike or not. However, in a Flurry of Blows, the only unarmed attacks the monk can make are unarmed strikes. Is grapple an unarmed attack? Certainly; it will benefit from Ki Strike and bypass DR X/Lawful. Can it be performed as part of a Flurry of Blows? No; it is neither an attack with an unarmed strike, nor an attack with a special monk weapon. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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