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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3208848" data-attributes="member: 1656">How does the PHB define Unarmed Strike?PHB p121:Strike, Unarmed: A Medium character deals 1d3 points of nonlethal damage with an unarmed strike, which may be a punch, kick, head butt, or other type of attacl.&nbsp; A Small character deals 1d2 points of nonlethal damage.&nbsp; A monk or any character with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat can deal lethal or nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes, at her option.&nbsp; The damage from an unarmed strike is considered weapon damage for the purposes of effects that give you a bonus on weapon damage rolls.An unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon.&nbsp; Therefore, you can use the Weapon Finesse feat (p102) to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with an unarmed strike..&quot;... to attack rolls with an unarmed strike.&quot;&nbsp; The attack roll is made before you know whether or not an attack is successful; thus, we can see that the Glossary contains confusing information, superceded by the primary text; the term 'unarmed strike' cannot refer only to successful attacks, since we can make an attack roll with an unarmed strike.&nbsp; Making an attack roll after success is already determined is nonsensical, so success cannot have been determined before the attack is considered to be an unarmed strike.Further, we can see that unarmed strikes are not restricted to monks or those with the IUS feat; anyone who is punching, kicking, or headbutting is using an unarmed strike, trained or not.Is a punch, kick, or head butt an attack made with no weapon in hand?&nbsp; Absolutely; thus, it satisfies the definition of unarmed attack you provided.An unarmed strike is an unarmed attack.&nbsp; Not all unarmed attacks, however, are unarmed strikes.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3208848, member: 1656"] How does the PHB define Unarmed Strike? PHB p121: [i][b]Strike, Unarmed[/b]: A Medium character deals 1d3 points of nonlethal damage with an unarmed strike, which may be a punch, kick, head butt, or other type of attacl. A Small character deals 1d2 points of nonlethal damage. A monk or any character with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat can deal lethal or nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes, at her option. The damage from an unarmed strike is considered weapon damage for the purposes of effects that give you a bonus on weapon damage rolls. An unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon. Therefore, you can use the Weapon Finesse feat (p102) to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with an unarmed strike.[/i]. "... to attack rolls with an unarmed strike." The attack roll is made before you know whether or not an attack is successful; thus, we can see that the Glossary contains confusing information, superceded by the primary text; the term 'unarmed strike' [i]cannot[/i] refer only to successful attacks, since we can make an attack roll with an unarmed strike. Making an attack roll after success is already determined is nonsensical, so success cannot have been determined before the attack is considered to be an unarmed strike. Further, we can see that unarmed strikes are not restricted to monks or those with the IUS feat; anyone who is punching, kicking, or headbutting is using an unarmed strike, trained or not. Is a punch, kick, or head butt an attack made with no weapon in hand? Absolutely; thus, it satisfies the definition of unarmed attack you provided. An unarmed strike is an unarmed attack. Not all unarmed attacks, however, are unarmed strikes. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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