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<blockquote data-quote="Chu Li" data-source="post: 3695035" data-attributes="member: 36373"><p>I am having a lively debate with my players. When the ninja-monk, who had recently relieved a villain of his trusty sidearm (a keen +3 dagger), wanted to use it as part of it's flurry attack I first ruled that this wasn't possible. If she wanted to pull that stunt i said, she'd have to invest into weapon focus (dagger) and a follow-up feat (just like the "serpent-school" and "whirling steel" feats in Ebberon, which allow you to treat one specific weapon as a special monk weapon, hence allowing you to use it as part of a flurry of blows).</p><p>Looking at the benefit this feat grants the wielder of a weapon such as a longspear (kickass) or two-bladed sword (okay) I have a bad conscience squeezing those requirements out of my player who wants to apply the effect to a dagger. if it weren't for the mojo knife, no-one would ever even think about taking such pains to get an extra attack with a 1d4 weapon, which is even less than a monk's 1st UA damage.</p><p>Furthermore my answer to her request is like "yeah, you can do that in 5 levels!". </p><p></p><p>That made me think about monk weapons in general. What makes those weapons unique and flurryable? is it just game balancing to restrict the monk to a very small set of weapons that nobody else can or would bother to use, including any monks beyond lvl 3? </p><p>I've also noticed, that kama and sickle are practically identical weapons/tools (statwise and in realworld-application). Additonally the siangham (or more correctly siangkam) is used almost like a dagger. </p><p></p><p>by the way...where's that good old rattan stick? is it a club? and if so, shouldn't a monk be able to flurry with one or two of those?</p><p></p><p>the monk's special weapons function much like simple weapons and in a respective setting are actually simple tools put to a different use. </p><p></p><p>ok. enough of that rant.</p><p></p><p>i feel inclined to allow monks to treat all simple & "monkish" exotic weapons he/she is proficient with as special monk weapons for the purpose of a flurry of blows.</p><p></p><p>now that's where you come into play. what do you think?</p><p></p><p>Thank you for your intellectual effort.</p><p></p><p>ChuLi</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chu Li, post: 3695035, member: 36373"] I am having a lively debate with my players. When the ninja-monk, who had recently relieved a villain of his trusty sidearm (a keen +3 dagger), wanted to use it as part of it's flurry attack I first ruled that this wasn't possible. If she wanted to pull that stunt i said, she'd have to invest into weapon focus (dagger) and a follow-up feat (just like the "serpent-school" and "whirling steel" feats in Ebberon, which allow you to treat one specific weapon as a special monk weapon, hence allowing you to use it as part of a flurry of blows). Looking at the benefit this feat grants the wielder of a weapon such as a longspear (kickass) or two-bladed sword (okay) I have a bad conscience squeezing those requirements out of my player who wants to apply the effect to a dagger. if it weren't for the mojo knife, no-one would ever even think about taking such pains to get an extra attack with a 1d4 weapon, which is even less than a monk's 1st UA damage. Furthermore my answer to her request is like "yeah, you can do that in 5 levels!". That made me think about monk weapons in general. What makes those weapons unique and flurryable? is it just game balancing to restrict the monk to a very small set of weapons that nobody else can or would bother to use, including any monks beyond lvl 3? I've also noticed, that kama and sickle are practically identical weapons/tools (statwise and in realworld-application). Additonally the siangham (or more correctly siangkam) is used almost like a dagger. by the way...where's that good old rattan stick? is it a club? and if so, shouldn't a monk be able to flurry with one or two of those? the monk's special weapons function much like simple weapons and in a respective setting are actually simple tools put to a different use. ok. enough of that rant. i feel inclined to allow monks to treat all simple & "monkish" exotic weapons he/she is proficient with as special monk weapons for the purpose of a flurry of blows. now that's where you come into play. what do you think? Thank you for your intellectual effort. ChuLi [/QUOTE]
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