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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3011001" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I agree that the speed should be 70, but I disagree that the order of casting the spells is relevant. The order should be irrelevant. Spells should interact the same way, regardless of the order in which they are cast unless the spells themselves indicate that order is relevant.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If order is relevant here and you cast the Haste spell first, then it becomes:</p><p></p><p>The user does not have a Fly Speed, so it is not affected by Haste. He then casts Fly and gets a 40 speed which still is not affect by Haste because the mode of travel was not available when the Haste spell was first cast.</p><p></p><p>But if order is irrelevant, then Haste cast first still affects the Fly spell and you still get a 70 Speed. The user never had a Fly Speed of 60, so there was never a reason to up it to 90 before multiplying by 2/3rds. In fact, there is no multiply by 2/3rds rule. Either you have a Fly Speed of 40, or you have one of 60. If Hasted, the one you have increases by 30.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3011001, member: 2011"] I agree that the speed should be 70, but I disagree that the order of casting the spells is relevant. The order should be irrelevant. Spells should interact the same way, regardless of the order in which they are cast unless the spells themselves indicate that order is relevant. If order is relevant here and you cast the Haste spell first, then it becomes: The user does not have a Fly Speed, so it is not affected by Haste. He then casts Fly and gets a 40 speed which still is not affect by Haste because the mode of travel was not available when the Haste spell was first cast. But if order is irrelevant, then Haste cast first still affects the Fly spell and you still get a 70 Speed. The user never had a Fly Speed of 60, so there was never a reason to up it to 90 before multiplying by 2/3rds. In fact, there is no multiply by 2/3rds rule. Either you have a Fly Speed of 40, or you have one of 60. If Hasted, the one you have increases by 30. [/QUOTE]
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