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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 3539347" data-attributes="member: 33132">So, I like the Fly spell - in fact I love it... but as a DM, it's a royal PitA - because half of the monsters are unable to do anything sensible against it. in fact, you can fly at an altitude of about 150 ft. with your group, then pepper it with fireballs and arrows. And you monsters look sad. If they can do ranged, you'll just fly a bit higher, because the long-range spells have an enormous range (400+ ft.).And this from level 5 on. I have no problem with a group on 10+ level doing this. Overland Flight is also fantastic and I've got no problems with it, but groups completely starting to fly, starting on 5th or 6th? Makes some encounters... boring.I know that this problem stems from the versatility of fly in open terrain, compared to the classical dungeon, where this problem is not a problem at all. But only doing indoor encounters is... boring as well.So, after reading the Bo9S, I've found Rising Phoenix as stance, and I'll probably adopt its solution:The maximum altitude of the Fly spell is dependant on level:5th level: 10 ft.6th-10th level: 20 ft.11th-15th level: 30 ft.16th-20th level: 40 ft.21th+ level: 50 ft.If you have a higher distance from the ground/liquid surface, the spell immediately ends, protecting you until the end of turn with a Feather Fall.This would be accompanied by a Fly, Greater-spell on 6th, that gives the full functionality of Fly, including higher duration... and Levitate would be useful for crossing pits again, instead of being completely obsoleted by Fly.What do you think? Should I leave Fly untouched? Give it a duration of 10 min./level (3.0-style) to offset the loss of use? Up the max. Altitudes?</blockquote>

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