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Fly spell and anitmagic field(help me beat a friggin dead horse yet again!!!!)
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<blockquote data-quote="jlhorner1974" data-source="post: 964796" data-attributes="member: 8628"><p>I agree with Hypersmurf. </p><p></p><p>Dispel Magic = ends spell early (basically reduces remaining duration to 0) -- all "when spell ends" effects happen immediately</p><p></p><p>Anti-Magic Field = does not change spell duration, only suppresses all spell effects while the Anti-Magic Field lasts </p><p></p><p>If the duration of the spell runs out while you are in Anti-Magic, I would say that the "when spell ends" effects do not trigger. What if you are in Anti-Magic for a week as a result of a natural Anti-Magic area? I think it's illogical if the suppressed spell were to suddenly kick in after all that time, just to do its "when spell ends" effect. No, I think when the spell ends, it tries to do its "when spell ends" effect. If you are in Anti-Magic, this fails, and that's it. Anti-Magic doesn't stop time as far as magic is concerned, it merely suppresses all magical effects while it lasts.</p><p></p><p>Once Fly is dispelled, and you are floating down, there is no spell left to dispel. You cannot target "lingering traces of magic" with a Dispel Magic. Fly is a bit of a strange case. It was clearly intended by the designers that they wanted to prevent Dispel Magic from harming a creature with the Fly spell up. Clearly they wanted the lingering effect of Fly to trump Dispel Magic, but Anti-Magic Field pretty much trumps everything.</p><p></p><p>To open up another can of worms, I think that if a spell is counterspelled, then the countered spell's "when spell ends" effects also do not happen because the spell was never successfully cast.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jlhorner1974, post: 964796, member: 8628"] I agree with Hypersmurf. Dispel Magic = ends spell early (basically reduces remaining duration to 0) -- all "when spell ends" effects happen immediately Anti-Magic Field = does not change spell duration, only suppresses all spell effects while the Anti-Magic Field lasts If the duration of the spell runs out while you are in Anti-Magic, I would say that the "when spell ends" effects do not trigger. What if you are in Anti-Magic for a week as a result of a natural Anti-Magic area? I think it's illogical if the suppressed spell were to suddenly kick in after all that time, just to do its "when spell ends" effect. No, I think when the spell ends, it tries to do its "when spell ends" effect. If you are in Anti-Magic, this fails, and that's it. Anti-Magic doesn't stop time as far as magic is concerned, it merely suppresses all magical effects while it lasts. Once Fly is dispelled, and you are floating down, there is no spell left to dispel. You cannot target "lingering traces of magic" with a Dispel Magic. Fly is a bit of a strange case. It was clearly intended by the designers that they wanted to prevent Dispel Magic from harming a creature with the Fly spell up. Clearly they wanted the lingering effect of Fly to trump Dispel Magic, but Anti-Magic Field pretty much trumps everything. To open up another can of worms, I think that if a spell is counterspelled, then the countered spell's "when spell ends" effects also do not happen because the spell was never successfully cast. [/QUOTE]
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