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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tuft" data-source="post: 5975175" data-attributes="member: 60045">Played in a 3E and a 4E campaign In parallell.In the 3E campaign I played a buffing support sorcerer together with a swashbuckler, a druid and a ranger. Support was freely given and accepted, and the characters felt nicely interdepentent, with nobody domineering over the others, all the way up to 20+.In the 4E campaign I played a bard along with a swordmage, a fighter, and a rogue (even the rogue!). The players were fiercely independent and my bard felt completely superfluous. The players were good optimizers and all noted that it was easier to optimize defense over damage in 4E. They preferred to trigger their surges themselves through magic items rather than accept healing, and the rogue even prefered to use powers to gain combat advantage rather than the ignominy of accepting flanking from my character. I hardly gave out any healing at all through the last Epic part of the campaign. The fighter totally domineered, both defensively and in damage dealt (I ran statistics in excel to keep track).Anecdotal evidence, sure, but just showing that your mileage may vary, depending on the players involved.</blockquote>