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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lady Sabelle" data-source="post: 5433676" data-attributes="member: 53363">By changing Cloistered Cleric for Totem Druid (Dragon Magazine 335, page 87) the build would look like this:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Bard 1.......................Bardic Music, Skill Focus: Knowledge (religion), Feat:Song of the Heart, Feat:Melodic Casting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Totem Druid 1.............Totem companion, Totem shape (1/day), Nature sense</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Totem Druid 2.............Natural Spell, woodland stride, Feat: Subsonics</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Totem Druid 3.............+1 Con, Totem shape (2/day), Trackless shape</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Totem Druid 4.............Resist Nature's Lure</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Green Whisperer 1........Feat:Leadership</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Green Whisperer 2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Green Whisperer 3........+1 Wis</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Divine Oracle 1.............Feat: Knowledge Devotion</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Divine Oracle 2.............Prescient sense (as Evasion? *See Remaining Main Issue Below )</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist 1</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  2........ +1 Wis, Feat ??</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  3</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  4</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  5........Feat ??</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  6........+1 Wis</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  7</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  8........Feat ??</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  9</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> Fochlucan Lyrist  10.......+1 Wis</li> </ol>BAB: 16Druid CL: 19Bard CL: 14Domains: OracleFly Speed: 60’Totem shape 2/dayRemaining Main Issue:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">PrC: Divine Oracle (requirements: Knowledge (religion), Skill focus: Knowledge (religion), ability to cast any 2 divination spells) This PrC gives Prescient sense at level 2 which is alternately Evasion.   Again, we'd need DM approval to allow this to count for that Lyrist  requirement.</li> </ul>This way we remove most of the cheese: No divine meta-magic, No Druidic language issues, and no changes to the Green Whisperer. Most of the bardic music feats can be taken at 1st lvl, allowing Leadership at 6th (as suggested). Totem Druid gives me a shapechange ability with the added bonus of a FREE Natural Spell Feat. Sure I lose the versatility of true wildshape, but with the build I'd have never gotten it anyway.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />The questions are: 1- What feats should I take for the remaining 3 slots?  2- Is this build worth the domain and turn undead/divine meta-magic loses? With only 2 uses of Totem shape and being a tiny creature otherwise, I'm not built for front line combat. And I can't sing/play in animal form. It's too bad that Totem speech is an 8th level ability...<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/cry.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":.-(" title="Cry    :.-(" data-shortname=":.-(" /></blockquote>

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