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<blockquote data-quote="bganon" data-source="post: 6604513" data-attributes="member: 60886">Heavily obscured areas &quot;block vision entirely&quot;.&nbsp; I take that to include breaking line of sight.&nbsp; The Fog Cloud is pretty much opaque.The drakes inside the cloud are blinded, and can't be seen.&nbsp; This is not the same as &quot;hidden&quot;.&nbsp; Unless the drakes actively try to hide the PCs should know exactly what square they're in.&nbsp; Attacks against the drakes have disadvantage because they can't be seen, but they also have advantage because the drakes are blinded, so this cancels.&nbsp; The drakes, in turn, have disadvantage on their attacks (they are blinded) but advantage against the PCs that can't see them, so again, this cancels.Unless the drakes are actively hiding, then there's no problem with collisions - everybody still knows roughly where everybody else is.&nbsp; I don't think attempting to move into a hidden creature's space is covered in the rules - I think for a fog cloud I'd just have the mover stop short, maybe spend an extra 5' for the attempted move, and now the hidden creature is revealed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bganon, post: 6604513, member: 60886"] Heavily obscured areas "block vision entirely". I take that to include breaking line of sight. The Fog Cloud is pretty much opaque. The drakes inside the cloud are blinded, and can't be seen. This is not the same as "hidden". Unless the drakes actively try to hide the PCs should know exactly what square they're in. Attacks against the drakes have disadvantage because they can't be seen, but they also have advantage because the drakes are blinded, so this cancels. The drakes, in turn, have disadvantage on their attacks (they are blinded) but advantage against the PCs that can't see them, so again, this cancels. Unless the drakes are actively hiding, then there's no problem with collisions - everybody still knows roughly where everybody else is. I don't think attempting to move into a hidden creature's space is covered in the rules - I think for a fog cloud I'd just have the mover stop short, maybe spend an extra 5' for the attempted move, and now the hidden creature is revealed. [/QUOTE]

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