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<blockquote data-quote="Kid Charlemagne" data-source="post: 1542924" data-attributes="member: 93">Hmmm, let me check Broadsides, my favorite ship sourcebook.1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Pirate ships tended to be small and fast, relying on deception more than pure firepower.&nbsp; In a D&amp;D game that doesn't have to be the case, but a 50' to 60' ship would be just fine.&nbsp; In Broadsides, such a vessel would run 18,000 to 36,000, roughly speaking.&nbsp; Three masts, a crew of as few as 6 to as many as 20, with the usual complement being 9-13 sailors.3.&nbsp; A folding boat's largest size is normally 24', and a similar sized boat in Broadsides would run between 2,500 (sail boat) and 3,500 (fishing boat).&nbsp; So 7,200 gp for a magical one is still a little cheap, but still more expensive than a real boat.&nbsp; Would I love to have a Honda Civic I could stick in my pocket?&nbsp; Sure, but I can barely afford the full-size one sitting in the parking lot now, much less one that cost me 35-50 K.4.&nbsp; I'd double it in each dimension, so 4X.&nbsp; Call it 28,000 gp.5.&nbsp; Sure!&nbsp; I mean, it's designed to meld with a boat, so why not?&nbsp; I might make the cost = the increased cost of the larger folding boat, if I felt it had to cost money at all - like I said, it's what the item is meant to do, so why not just let them do it for free?&nbsp; It's not their fault they found a really cool ship to attach it to...6.&nbsp; Well, by standard fly rules, the spell doesn't end suddenly.&nbsp; So it would be likely to cause a gradual drop in altitude - though there would be some danger, as dispel magic takes out a magic item for 1d4 rounds, and fly drops slowly (60' per round, though 10' a second is still a bit scary) for 1d6 rounds - then plummets.&nbsp; Best to fly low.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kid Charlemagne, post: 1542924, member: 93"] Hmmm, let me check [b]Broadsides[/b], my favorite ship sourcebook. 1 & 2. Pirate ships tended to be small and fast, relying on deception more than pure firepower. In a D&D game that doesn't have to be the case, but a 50' to 60' ship would be just fine. In [b]Broadsides[/b], such a vessel would run 18,000 to 36,000, roughly speaking. Three masts, a crew of as few as 6 to as many as 20, with the usual complement being 9-13 sailors. 3. A [i]folding boat's[/i] largest size is normally 24', and a similar sized boat in [b]Broadsides[/b] would run between 2,500 (sail boat) and 3,500 (fishing boat). So 7,200 gp for a magical one is still a little cheap, but still more expensive than a real boat. Would I love to have a Honda Civic I could stick in my pocket? Sure, but I can barely afford the full-size one sitting in the parking lot now, much less one that cost me 35-50 K. 4. I'd double it in each dimension, so 4X. Call it 28,000 gp. 5. Sure! I mean, it's designed to meld with a boat, so why not? I might make the cost = the increased cost of the larger folding boat, if I felt it had to cost money at all - like I said, it's what the item is meant to do, so why not just let them do it for free? It's not their fault they found a really cool ship to attach it to... 6. Well, by standard [i]fly[/i] rules, the spell doesn't end suddenly. So it would be likely to cause a gradual drop in altitude - though there would be some danger, as [i]dispel magic[/i] takes out a magic item for 1d4 rounds, and [i]fly[/i] drops slowly (60' per round, though 10' a second is still a bit scary) for 1d6 rounds - then plummets. Best to fly low. [/QUOTE]

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