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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 9524498" data-attributes="member: 2209">I think i am in the demographic here. I did not take up 4e when it came out, I continued playing 3.5 then did Pathfinder Beta then full Pathfinder 1e with the same group and same world, just the slightly different rules.I eventually joined a  new group that played 4e and I learned it and enjoyed it. Then the rest of the group decided they were sick of 4e so we switched to Pathfinder and other games (BESM, Mutants & Masterminds, Vampire, Shadowrun, d20 modern, home brew systems) when I was DM I ran Pathfinder. We did a session of 5e play test but were not immediate adopters of 5e but once we tried the full game it has been our mostly go to for fantasy and I have DMd it and I am still playing it with occasional other games like Honey Heist and Kids on Bikes and home brew systems.When I DM 5e has been my system of choice for years now and would be for a new campaign if I were the DM.I like the balance of builds better in 5e over Pathfinder and I like the less fiddly skill system and death saves and full rest healing too.Not as well balanced as 4e but better than Pathfinder and good enough for my tastes.No WotC alchemist or witch or warlord, but enough decent options.</blockquote>