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<blockquote data-quote="Kingreaper" data-source="post: 5197620" data-attributes="member: 83870"><p>The ruling is consistent where? In the rules themselves? No, it's pretty clear that the wording that "in place of" (which I can't remember seeing for RBA's, only MBA's) and "as" have different meanings.</p><p></p><p>In character builder? Character builder isn't a rules source. Can't check right now whether character builder gets it wrong, but it WOULD be wrong if it gave Eagle Eye bonuses to "in place of" powers, because at no point are they an RBA, and thus at no point do they fit the definition of a power to which Eagle Eye bonuses apply.</p><p></p><p>Unless there's some rule somewhere that I'm missing that says otherwise?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And to illustrate why I'm sure there's a difference, look at Avalanche Hammers. They specifically require you do a charge and end it with an MBA. If anything used in place of an MBA gets the bonuses, then it's impossible to charge and not get the bonuses. So why do they specify it must be an MBA? Makes no sense under that interpretation.</p><p>But if you take the words as <strong>meaning what they say</strong>, suddenly it makes perfect sense. It stops you stacking OTHER powers with an extra [W] of damage.</p><p>(you can still get a Vanguard weapon, but it's a difference anyway)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kingreaper, post: 5197620, member: 83870"] The ruling is consistent where? In the rules themselves? No, it's pretty clear that the wording that "in place of" (which I can't remember seeing for RBA's, only MBA's) and "as" have different meanings. In character builder? Character builder isn't a rules source. Can't check right now whether character builder gets it wrong, but it WOULD be wrong if it gave Eagle Eye bonuses to "in place of" powers, because at no point are they an RBA, and thus at no point do they fit the definition of a power to which Eagle Eye bonuses apply. Unless there's some rule somewhere that I'm missing that says otherwise? And to illustrate why I'm sure there's a difference, look at Avalanche Hammers. They specifically require you do a charge and end it with an MBA. If anything used in place of an MBA gets the bonuses, then it's impossible to charge and not get the bonuses. So why do they specify it must be an MBA? Makes no sense under that interpretation. But if you take the words as [B]meaning what they say[/B], suddenly it makes perfect sense. It stops you stacking OTHER powers with an extra [W] of damage. (you can still get a Vanguard weapon, but it's a difference anyway) [/QUOTE]
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