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<blockquote data-quote="Orcus" data-source="post: 3789879" data-attributes="member: 1254"><p>I have to admit, 4E is not the same "welcome change" that 3E was. When 3E was announced I truly felt the NEED for a new edition. I dont feel that quite as much for 4E. But I am excited for a new edition. But that said, I dont think we can expect the same need to switch from editions ever again. </p><p></p><p>And dont hold that lack of need against 4E.</p><p></p><p>In my mind, I think TSR/Whomever sat on D&D and didnt do anything with it for wayyyyyy too long. That created a need for 3E that was long overdue. Frankly, it was neglect. They were irresponsibly neglectful of updating our game. </p><p></p><p>It would be totally irresponsible for us to demand that WotC ignore 3E and create the same need that we had for 3E for 4E. Frankly, that means that WotC is being a better caretaker of our game. They arent going to let it lie dormat for as long as 2E did. </p><p></p><p>When you have company that cares in charge of D&D--and I firmly believe WotC cares (whether or not Hasbro does, I dont know nor does it matter, cause WotC does)--that company would never let things get to where 2E was.</p><p></p><p>So it is totally unrealistic for people to compare the "need" from 2E to 3E with the need from 3E to 4E. The only reason that need was there was due to neglect. </p><p></p><p>So crazypixie, I agree with you that I am ready to embrace 4E. It will be a welcome change. Not the same way that 2E to 3E was. But that need for change is one that I hope we will never have again. I hope no company that ever owns D&D lets it lay as stagnant as TSR did. Of course, what that means is that we will never again feel that same need for an edition update. That doesn mean, of course, that we should not update editions. I wish edition updates had happened sooner. I think D&D got a huge huge jump forward with 3E. That stuff should have happened sooner.</p><p></p><p>Clark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orcus, post: 3789879, member: 1254"] I have to admit, 4E is not the same "welcome change" that 3E was. When 3E was announced I truly felt the NEED for a new edition. I dont feel that quite as much for 4E. But I am excited for a new edition. But that said, I dont think we can expect the same need to switch from editions ever again. And dont hold that lack of need against 4E. In my mind, I think TSR/Whomever sat on D&D and didnt do anything with it for wayyyyyy too long. That created a need for 3E that was long overdue. Frankly, it was neglect. They were irresponsibly neglectful of updating our game. It would be totally irresponsible for us to demand that WotC ignore 3E and create the same need that we had for 3E for 4E. Frankly, that means that WotC is being a better caretaker of our game. They arent going to let it lie dormat for as long as 2E did. When you have company that cares in charge of D&D--and I firmly believe WotC cares (whether or not Hasbro does, I dont know nor does it matter, cause WotC does)--that company would never let things get to where 2E was. So it is totally unrealistic for people to compare the "need" from 2E to 3E with the need from 3E to 4E. The only reason that need was there was due to neglect. So crazypixie, I agree with you that I am ready to embrace 4E. It will be a welcome change. Not the same way that 2E to 3E was. But that need for change is one that I hope we will never have again. I hope no company that ever owns D&D lets it lay as stagnant as TSR did. Of course, what that means is that we will never again feel that same need for an edition update. That doesn mean, of course, that we should not update editions. I wish edition updates had happened sooner. I think D&D got a huge huge jump forward with 3E. That stuff should have happened sooner. Clark [/QUOTE]
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