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<blockquote data-quote="Intrope" data-source="post: 3791105" data-attributes="member: 3591"><p>Actually, google *is* a portal (news.google.com) for usenet.</p><p></p><p>And I do go back to rec.games.frp.dnd (not that I've ever been an active poster on any board ever). There's always been people who's immediate reaction to a given change is 'I won't ever do that!', 'Broken!', 'Ruining the Game!', etc.</p><p></p><p>Al this wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments is pretty much the same as it was for 1->2 (pre rec.games.frp.dnd!), 2->3, 3->3.5, and it'll repeat for 4->5, etc. Heck, it's pretty much the same for basically every rules system revision for every game. On the whole, I expect that most of the people who are getting upset right now would be best served by *not* following the 4e news, and waiting to evaluate it in May: Most complaints are about issues you can't see the whole picture of now probably won't be issues when the full picture is revealed. </p><p></p><p>Consider Succubi as an example: Everyone's been assuming that the Succubi as Devils means that Succubi are now Lawful Evil. The big picture may reveal that Devils are no longer defined by abstract Law and Evil, but rather by a more concrete story of Deicide, Punishment, and attempts to escape/subvert that punishment. In which case Succubi may fit in with the rest of the Devils extremely smoothly! (And the backstory for Devils may have better plot hook generators built into it than right now, too).</p><p></p><p>Worrying over things where you can't see the whole story, and won't know the truth of it for months is a bad plan; you'll upset yourself to no purpose. (Note that I'm not saying that 4e will be perfect, or even playable! We'll all have plenty of time to go ballistic about it in May if it sucks)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Intrope, post: 3791105, member: 3591"] Actually, google *is* a portal (news.google.com) for usenet. And I do go back to rec.games.frp.dnd (not that I've ever been an active poster on any board ever). There's always been people who's immediate reaction to a given change is 'I won't ever do that!', 'Broken!', 'Ruining the Game!', etc. Al this wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments is pretty much the same as it was for 1->2 (pre rec.games.frp.dnd!), 2->3, 3->3.5, and it'll repeat for 4->5, etc. Heck, it's pretty much the same for basically every rules system revision for every game. On the whole, I expect that most of the people who are getting upset right now would be best served by *not* following the 4e news, and waiting to evaluate it in May: Most complaints are about issues you can't see the whole picture of now probably won't be issues when the full picture is revealed. Consider Succubi as an example: Everyone's been assuming that the Succubi as Devils means that Succubi are now Lawful Evil. The big picture may reveal that Devils are no longer defined by abstract Law and Evil, but rather by a more concrete story of Deicide, Punishment, and attempts to escape/subvert that punishment. In which case Succubi may fit in with the rest of the Devils extremely smoothly! (And the backstory for Devils may have better plot hook generators built into it than right now, too). Worrying over things where you can't see the whole story, and won't know the truth of it for months is a bad plan; you'll upset yourself to no purpose. (Note that I'm not saying that 4e will be perfect, or even playable! We'll all have plenty of time to go ballistic about it in May if it sucks) [/QUOTE]
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