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<blockquote data-quote="Wystan" data-source="post: 3791595" data-attributes="member: 21422"><p>Fourth Edition (What it means to me):</p><p></p><p>I have gamed since 1985, I was 12...I was on a youth group trip to Kentucky to assist people who were in need and I was the biggest P.I.T.A. kid I could have been. I was younger than all the others by 2 years or more, I had ADD and I was an attention seeker. I was told later by my friend and GM that the Youth Pastor had told him 'Try to be nice to him and include him in what you do...' This lead to Villains and Vigilantes, which led to AD&D, which led to Top Secret S/I, which led to various other role playing games. These taught me to seek the time and place for my acting, to know when it was my turn in the spotlight, and to relate to people better. Now I can say that I am a better person for Roleplaying. </p><p></p><p>I remember stumbling on Eric Noah's 3rd Edition News site and excitedly calling my Roleplaying buddies and telling them that a new version is coming down the pike...they were not as enthused as I was, but I decided to keep looking...they finally came to see that this was a good thing and even the AD&D grognard in our circle plays 3.5 now and will even GM it at times. </p><p></p><p>Now, a few weeks ago, news came out of 4th Edition...I am again interested and excited (ADD does do that as well... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />) and wish to share it with my circle, to which I keep hearing the same thing I am hearing here more and more..."I have enough, let it go to those that feel they need it", well, here is a secret (free, from me to you)...</p><p></p><p><strong>WE ALL NEED IT</strong>... <strong>New Players</strong> will play the <strong>New Edition</strong>... The longer we as a community Grognard and disdain the new edition, the less likely we are to assist the new Players learn and appreciate the game. Sure we can then show then BD&D and they will possibly love it too, but if we cannot go where they are, why the hell would they come to where we are hiding?</p><p></p><p>No matter who we are, or what we do...We need to be involved, we need competent GM's willing to show New Players the New Game Systems. We need experienced players that are willing to go the extra mile and play a First Level campaign module so that the New Players can see the story from the ground up... No matter how apathetic you are towards the new edition, you need to be involved. Every True Grognard hurts the new players when all they do is keep to the old version. (Even Piratecat with his disdain for 3.5 and his love for BD&D will play 3.5)...</p><p></p><p>I respect most of the people here, and those that I exclude is based on lack of knowledge and not based on dislike, but I feel that we are forgetting why we play and focusing way too much on what we play. How many here were less socially adept prior to roleplaying, less verbally capable? Help the New Players and help the game as a whole....</p><p></p><p>Learn and Teach 4th Edition to save the Hobby.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks for letting me ramble....</p><p></p><p>Wystan</p><p>Bill C</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wystan, post: 3791595, member: 21422"] Fourth Edition (What it means to me): I have gamed since 1985, I was 12...I was on a youth group trip to Kentucky to assist people who were in need and I was the biggest P.I.T.A. kid I could have been. I was younger than all the others by 2 years or more, I had ADD and I was an attention seeker. I was told later by my friend and GM that the Youth Pastor had told him 'Try to be nice to him and include him in what you do...' This lead to Villains and Vigilantes, which led to AD&D, which led to Top Secret S/I, which led to various other role playing games. These taught me to seek the time and place for my acting, to know when it was my turn in the spotlight, and to relate to people better. Now I can say that I am a better person for Roleplaying. I remember stumbling on Eric Noah's 3rd Edition News site and excitedly calling my Roleplaying buddies and telling them that a new version is coming down the pike...they were not as enthused as I was, but I decided to keep looking...they finally came to see that this was a good thing and even the AD&D grognard in our circle plays 3.5 now and will even GM it at times. Now, a few weeks ago, news came out of 4th Edition...I am again interested and excited (ADD does do that as well... :)) and wish to share it with my circle, to which I keep hearing the same thing I am hearing here more and more..."I have enough, let it go to those that feel they need it", well, here is a secret (free, from me to you)... [B]WE ALL NEED IT[/B]... [B]New Players[/B] will play the [B]New Edition[/B]... The longer we as a community Grognard and disdain the new edition, the less likely we are to assist the new Players learn and appreciate the game. Sure we can then show then BD&D and they will possibly love it too, but if we cannot go where they are, why the hell would they come to where we are hiding? No matter who we are, or what we do...We need to be involved, we need competent GM's willing to show New Players the New Game Systems. We need experienced players that are willing to go the extra mile and play a First Level campaign module so that the New Players can see the story from the ground up... No matter how apathetic you are towards the new edition, you need to be involved. Every True Grognard hurts the new players when all they do is keep to the old version. (Even Piratecat with his disdain for 3.5 and his love for BD&D will play 3.5)... I respect most of the people here, and those that I exclude is based on lack of knowledge and not based on dislike, but I feel that we are forgetting why we play and focusing way too much on what we play. How many here were less socially adept prior to roleplaying, less verbally capable? Help the New Players and help the game as a whole.... Learn and Teach 4th Edition to save the Hobby. Thanks for letting me ramble.... Wystan Bill C [/QUOTE]
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