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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thunderfoot" data-source="post: 2414164" data-attributes="member: 34175">I don't see it (not that your math is flawed) but a one-gallon waterskin?  Go to your refridgerator, pull out the lightweigth 1-gallon plastic milk container and fill that with water.  That's a very large and heavy canteen there.  Now, make it out of treated leather and add some wooden fittings and a hemp or leather carry strap.  No, I think 4 pounds (i.e. a half gallon) for a waterskin is just about right.  As far as efficient; most canteens/Nalgenes/water bottles today only carry a Liter/Quart: that's 8 fill-ups (or 4 if you carry two which is what I do.)   I'm an avid backpacker with several hundred miles under my belt.  And if you want to know why there are encumbrance rules, put on a 30lb pack (most people would pack far heavier) and walk up a 2 mile slope with a 500 ft altitude gain.  I guarantee you're gonna feel it.  Now think about adding, armor, weapons, extra adventuring items and add some nice exerting combat to the mix.  If we were going for realism, the average adventurer would hike about 3 - 5 miles a day, eat 4 meals at about 8000 calories and consume 2-4 gallons of water just to maintain body weight and vitality.  With combat averaging 2 fights per day - the average adventure would be expelling about 6500 - 10000 calories a day and running through half their body weight in water.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />  I realize people are going to question those calorie counts but trust me - the average backpacker expends about 4000.  By comparison the average person should consume between 1500 - 2000 depending upon how active they are.  A MRE (Meal Ready to Eat) used by our military in the field has 3000 - 5000 calories PER MEAL.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />  So as for me - 1 pound of food and a gallon of water suit me just fine. Though they rules don't add realism, it is after all a FANTASY role playing game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  But of course, that's just my two coppers</blockquote>

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