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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CarlZog" data-source="post: 2579364" data-attributes="member: 11716">No, there are differenct kinds of hobbies. I'm inclined to agree with the distinction dK is drawing. There is a difference between activities in which a participant is primarily a passive consumer vs. those in which a participant is a creative producer. der Kluge clearly prefers the latter.Consumer hobbies are those in which the hobbyist is primarily consuming the creative efforts of someone else. These are the equivalent of "fan-based" hobbies. It doesn't matter whether the subject is comic books, football or the opera. Fans may discuss their favorite works, write about it, and enjoy a lot of activities associated with the subject, but they are not active creators of the work. In other words, you may spend your time going to comic cons, tailgating at the stadium, or attending the opera, but you're not writing comics, playing football, or singing on stage.Creative hobbies are those in which the participant is actually creating something  -- whether its a physical product, as in woodworking, gardening, painting;  or a performance, as in playing a musical instrument, playing a sport, or playing a game.Obviously, you could pick this apart and say that there are many hobbies that are mix of the two, but I think the basic distinction is valid.Edit: Ranger added:You're right. You can. But which is the primary focus of the hobby?Does going to watch other people play RPGs form the primary basis your role in the hobby? Or are you participating in a regularly scheduled, organized game?Similarly, is your primary interaction with football consist of watching others play the game? Or do you play regularly scheduled games on an organized team?There is a fundamental difference in the nature of the activity.Carl</blockquote>

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