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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 1232245" data-attributes="member: 1645"><p>An interesting question -- with lots of interesting responses so far.</p><p></p><p>I enjoyed some of the allusions to other, similar stories: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Slay a dragon -- or demon</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ascend the throne of Gondor</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Odyssey</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Recover a Silmaril from the Iron Crown of Morgoth</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Travel to the nether world</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Seven years slavery -- after which the brother gives him the ugly sister</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Three impossible tasks</li> </ul><p>I also like Agback's point that it depends on the guardian-brother's goals:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he want to inflict an humiliating defeat or backdown on a suitor of whom he is jealous?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he want a wife in exchange for his sister?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he want to extract the greatest possible benefit to his lineage/clan as the price of their daughter?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he want to recruit the most helpful marriage-allies he can find?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he want to ensure that his sister and her children enjoy the best material circumstances that he can arrange for them?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he want to guarantee good breeding stock as the father of his nieces?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he want to impose a non-reversible investment in the marriage to deter his brothers-in-law from philandering and divorce?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he want to stage a vast-scale heroic actions as a kind of live-fire symbolic ceremony?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Does he have only muddled ideas, and wonder what his father would do?</li> </ul><p>And I liked barsoomcore's list of broad ideas: </p><p></p><p>Real Estate</p><p>- clear out a formerly sacred site of blasphemous intruders</p><p>- restore a lost portion of the kingdom</p><p>- drive out unwanted invaders</p><p></p><p>Folks</p><p>- make peace with the hated rivals</p><p>- bring down the hated rivals</p><p>- embarrass the hated rivals</p><p>- rescue the loved ones</p><p>- impress the allies</p><p></p><p>Magic</p><p>- develop a new item</p><p>- recover a lost item</p><p>- steal a rightfully held item</p><p>- transport an item</p><p></p><p>Monsters</p><p>- slay the beastie, wee and timourous</p><p>- exterminate the race (drow, anyone?)</p><p>- render the kingdom safe from</p><p>- tame</p><p></p><p>I also liked frankthedm's point: they're elves; the task should take decades.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My first thought though was something that Teflon Billy touched on: <em>how</em> our hero completes the quest is as important as whether he completes or not. Maybe there's a subtle moral dilemma involved? Maybe he has to weigh the good of the elf kingdom versus his potential bride?</p><p></p><p>My second thought was that -- true to fairy-tale form -- the bride-to-be should help her potential husband overcome the challenges placed before him. Perhaps this backfires though?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 1232245, member: 1645"] An interesting question -- with lots of interesting responses so far. I enjoyed some of the allusions to other, similar stories: [List] [*]Slay a dragon -- or demon [*]Ascend the throne of Gondor [*]Odyssey [*]Recover a Silmaril from the Iron Crown of Morgoth [*]Travel to the nether world [*]Seven years slavery -- after which the brother gives him the ugly sister [*]Three impossible tasks[/List] I also like Agback's point that it depends on the guardian-brother's goals: [List] [*]Does he want to inflict an humiliating defeat or backdown on a suitor of whom he is jealous? [*]Does he want a wife in exchange for his sister? [*]Does he want to extract the greatest possible benefit to his lineage/clan as the price of their daughter? [*]Does he want to recruit the most helpful marriage-allies he can find? [*]Does he want to ensure that his sister and her children enjoy the best material circumstances that he can arrange for them? [*]Does he want to guarantee good breeding stock as the father of his nieces? [*]Does he want to impose a non-reversible investment in the marriage to deter his brothers-in-law from philandering and divorce? [*]Does he want to stage a vast-scale heroic actions as a kind of live-fire symbolic ceremony? [*]Does he have only muddled ideas, and wonder what his father would do?[/List] And I liked barsoomcore's list of broad ideas: Real Estate - clear out a formerly sacred site of blasphemous intruders - restore a lost portion of the kingdom - drive out unwanted invaders Folks - make peace with the hated rivals - bring down the hated rivals - embarrass the hated rivals - rescue the loved ones - impress the allies Magic - develop a new item - recover a lost item - steal a rightfully held item - transport an item Monsters - slay the beastie, wee and timourous - exterminate the race (drow, anyone?) - render the kingdom safe from - tame I also liked frankthedm's point: they're elves; the task should take decades. My first thought though was something that Teflon Billy touched on: [i]how[/i] our hero completes the quest is as important as whether he completes or not. Maybe there's a subtle moral dilemma involved? Maybe he has to weigh the good of the elf kingdom versus his potential bride? My second thought was that -- true to fairy-tale form -- the bride-to-be should help her potential husband overcome the challenges placed before him. Perhaps this backfires though? [/QUOTE]
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