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<blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 191057" data-attributes="member: 3139"><p>Sigil, thank you for bringing this up. I would like to point out however, that I actually define the terms, lawful, chaotic, good and evil almost completely different than you. Not to say that you are wrong and I am right, but to point out that "he who defines, wins."</p><p></p><p><strong> In my worldview: </strong> </p><p></p><p><strong> 1) </strong> Lawful = Absolutism + Many over One + Team + Static + "J" in Keirsey/Myers/Briggs Temperment Theory</p><p> </p><p>(Mechanus being the ideal physical representation of this worldview.)</p><p></p><p><strong> 2) </strong> Chaotic = Relativism + One over Many + Individuality + Dynamic + "P" in Keirsey/Myers/Briggs Temperment Theory</p><p></p><p>(Limbo being the ideal physical representation of this worldview.)</p><p></p><p><strong> 3) </strong> Good = Quality</p><p>(As per "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence", "Lila", and MOQ.)</p><p></p><p><strong> 4) </strong> Evil = Not Quality</p><p>(As above.)</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>Your Good/Evil axis is a part of how I define Law/Chaos. I believe that "Many over One" is not necessarily a part of Good, but it is the essence of Law.</p><p></p><p>Thus, in my system: </p><p></p><p>LG = Static Quality</p><p>NG = Ideal Quality</p><p>CG = Dynamic Quality</p><p></p><p>LN = Ideal Static</p><p>N = Ideal Median</p><p>CN = Ideal Dynamic</p><p></p><p>LE = Static Not Quality</p><p>NE = Ideal Not Quality</p><p>CE = Dynamic Not Quality</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>As per the black box:</p><p></p><p>I am an avid animist. Meaning: I do not believe that humans are sentient and that all other beings and objects are nonsentient. I believe that all objects and beings are sentient, just in a less complex manner than a human being (or possibly more if we do not put humans at the center of the universe). </p><p></p><p>In my mind, electrons "value" and "choose", obviously to less of an extent than a human, but this valueing and devalueing is there.</p><p></p><p>Why do I bring this up? The "black box" is a side effect of the Mind/Body division that I do not choose to cut in half. Good, Evil, Absolute, and Relative all have a larger priority with my philosophical knife than Mind/Body.</p><p></p><p>Go nuts. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ConcreteBuddha, post: 191057, member: 3139"] Sigil, thank you for bringing this up. I would like to point out however, that I actually define the terms, lawful, chaotic, good and evil almost completely different than you. Not to say that you are wrong and I am right, but to point out that "he who defines, wins." [B] In my worldview: [/B] [B] 1) [/B] Lawful = Absolutism + Many over One + Team + Static + "J" in Keirsey/Myers/Briggs Temperment Theory (Mechanus being the ideal physical representation of this worldview.) [B] 2) [/B] Chaotic = Relativism + One over Many + Individuality + Dynamic + "P" in Keirsey/Myers/Briggs Temperment Theory (Limbo being the ideal physical representation of this worldview.) [B] 3) [/B] Good = Quality (As per "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence", "Lila", and MOQ.) [B] 4) [/B] Evil = Not Quality (As above.) . . . Your Good/Evil axis is a part of how I define Law/Chaos. I believe that "Many over One" is not necessarily a part of Good, but it is the essence of Law. Thus, in my system: LG = Static Quality NG = Ideal Quality CG = Dynamic Quality LN = Ideal Static N = Ideal Median CN = Ideal Dynamic LE = Static Not Quality NE = Ideal Not Quality CE = Dynamic Not Quality . . . As per the black box: I am an avid animist. Meaning: I do not believe that humans are sentient and that all other beings and objects are nonsentient. I believe that all objects and beings are sentient, just in a less complex manner than a human being (or possibly more if we do not put humans at the center of the universe). In my mind, electrons "value" and "choose", obviously to less of an extent than a human, but this valueing and devalueing is there. Why do I bring this up? The "black box" is a side effect of the Mind/Body division that I do not choose to cut in half. Good, Evil, Absolute, and Relative all have a larger priority with my philosophical knife than Mind/Body. Go nuts. ;) [/QUOTE]
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