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<blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 2261476" data-attributes="member: 1190"><p>in general, i've always found that when there is this intense a debate about an issue of balance, ultimately, the system is balanced.</p><p></p><p>My logic: if it were complelety overpowered, only one or two loony munchkins would say that it was and their reasoning would mostly be based upon how cool their characters are. if they were completely underpowered (like 3.0 psionics), then only one or two conservative DM loonies would be saying it was balanced, based upon their ability to challenge the psionic characters.</p><p></p><p>since people tend to go so back and forth on this, it must be too close to call. Ultimately, that means, that like anything in the game, your game determines how well psionics fit. I tend to run a combat light game. Psionics are no stronger or weaker than any class. I once played a halfling shaper who nearly defeated a bad guy who was designed (plotwise) to be undefeatable because of the abilities he was able to give his astral construct.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, I think this debate ends up coming down to "do you like psionics." If you do, then you tend to view them as closer to balanced, if not, you tend not to.</p><p></p><p>Really, psionics are like the cleaving half-orc fighter with max strength, strength buffing items, and a awesome greatsword (who actually appeared in the last game I played in; the DM hated that character so much): he can take down a wyvern (or an army of goblins) in a single round at higher levels. Is the system broken? No. Are the abusable? Of course. Any game system is.</p><p></p><p>DC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DreamChaser, post: 2261476, member: 1190"] in general, i've always found that when there is this intense a debate about an issue of balance, ultimately, the system is balanced. My logic: if it were complelety overpowered, only one or two loony munchkins would say that it was and their reasoning would mostly be based upon how cool their characters are. if they were completely underpowered (like 3.0 psionics), then only one or two conservative DM loonies would be saying it was balanced, based upon their ability to challenge the psionic characters. since people tend to go so back and forth on this, it must be too close to call. Ultimately, that means, that like anything in the game, your game determines how well psionics fit. I tend to run a combat light game. Psionics are no stronger or weaker than any class. I once played a halfling shaper who nearly defeated a bad guy who was designed (plotwise) to be undefeatable because of the abilities he was able to give his astral construct. Ultimately, I think this debate ends up coming down to "do you like psionics." If you do, then you tend to view them as closer to balanced, if not, you tend not to. Really, psionics are like the cleaving half-orc fighter with max strength, strength buffing items, and a awesome greatsword (who actually appeared in the last game I played in; the DM hated that character so much): he can take down a wyvern (or an army of goblins) in a single round at higher levels. Is the system broken? No. Are the abusable? Of course. Any game system is. DC [/QUOTE]
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