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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2268898" data-attributes="member: 5777">I posted two links to a few posts on the very first page that talk about it along with stating that con contributes a massive number of hp and that saves are high at high levels, SR is fairly common in monsters, resistances and immunities are all commonplace.Now, all of that put together easily shows that elemental blasting with spells will tend to have some problems. Put with that the elemental problem of arcane types and then the limited damage that they do I think it'd pretty clear that blasting wouldnt be as useful. Hence why I said all of this in several different ways in the thread. A couple of times from the side and a couple of times directly.It isnt evasive to list off a host of problems and say, 'this is why it has problems'. How much more direct would you like?Also, psions are not even hugely above other casters for direct damage, they merely have a few advantages. Type change (but still elemental) and sometimes some dc (though only very, very rarely). They make something that is not terribly viable and make it better. Good for them.There is no sleight of hand going on. It was all stated clearly either in my post or in the very first post of each of those two threads.If someone wants to bash things and come off as an expert then they should do at least a minimum of reading on the subject in order to be credible.The very first post in each of those threads, while some could have been written better, are very well done and address most of the points brought up in this thread directly.Asking someone who wants to know to read a few posts and if they are still confused to read more seems more than reasonable. Asking people to not lie also seems reasonable.All in all, I could copy and paste the first couple of posts here, but linking people to the actual source which is done in a very nice formating way seems better. Giving credit where credit is due.Eh, this subject is always frustrating in that way, people will use the magic system which has more sacred cows and faults without blinking an eye but trying to use a system which was forced to be put into a similar setup to get more standing and is better balanced overall (although purposefully designed a bit weak in many areas) is shot down with half truths, exagerations, misunderstanding, or blatant lies.Others have stated these sorts of things in a better worded way, my strengths lie in other areas. Perhaps later I'll be able to copy and paste some good arguements made by others in various threads.The biggest problem is that most of the other peoples comments are so nebulous as to not really have a point where one can say, 'but look here!'. Things like nails, 'they can use too many high level powers a day'. It doesnt have any meaning, completely subjective. Yet, when I say that creatures have too many hp to have blasting work very well normally that is considered to be 'evasive'? Very confusing. The first was so incredibly nebulous and subjective there is nothing that can be said about it directly, the second works on something directly in the system.How about this quote then? At least it will say something in a better fashion than I can.. and there are tons more floating around in those two links, right at the beginning.</blockquote>

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