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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2269186" data-attributes="member: 478">"No, it's definitely not overpowered!!!""But if you still think it is, then why don't you do it that way, might work out better..." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />C'mon! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />This is completely ridiculous (as has been proven multiple times already).Only by adding up all spells known (without value) and comparing that number to all powers known (again without value) you can come to that conclusion. And that means effectively, that Acid Splash equals Meteor Swarm, because the spells known are worth the same. Completely pointless. So there's really no misinterpretation there (what's to misunderstand about that, anyways?), it's just the conclusion that follows that "argument" (if you can even call it that).It's just one of numerous examples.Ah, I guess that's why it is listed as a myth.I suppose the poster of said thread has not yet found this rather obvious truth. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />There goes another bit of that person's credibility...Yes, absolutely!That doesn't make a reason for it to be *vastly* stronger than any other compareable spell/power, however.The discipline lists are a disadvantage for sure, but power level is still power level and completely independant from them.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Don't forget the choice of four elements. Spontaneous, too.Have you read my post about the gloves above?I claim that globes hinder sorcerers more than psions! And I'm fairly sure about that, too. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So?Next thing you say is, that Meteor Swarm should be a 1st level spell?See, if blast spells don't work in your game, that alone doesn't make them bad.They work rather well in a lot of game, I can assure you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Only partially. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Hey, that was an *actual* argument from that thread... a rather funny one, too! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />See? That's the argument against why a psion's ability to unload their arsenal faster is not a problem, since a fighter or warlock is great with 20 encounters a day. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />This line there alone shows, that the poster has not even understood the argument why that is (or rather can be, as it depends on campaign style, of course) a problem.Also adding up PP equivalent for spell slots is in no way giving an appropriate comparison (as explained in detail above).It's not my doing, that the arguments in that thread are that silly, really. They simply are.And most of them are based on stuff like the above.See, since you have read it, it shouldn't be so hard to point out the posts, which are worthwhile in your opinion. I'm surely not going to read all of that stuff. No way! Especially not after such a laughable opening post (not yours, the one with all the "myth" stuff; two actually) with so many glaring errors, that the poster cannot be taken serious. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Since you can't list any good arguments from there, I guess there are none?No worries. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ByeThanee</blockquote>

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