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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2270727" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I agree with most of what you said, but you have a few mistakes here:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not understand this at all. Metapsionic feats are just as powerful as metamagic feats. In fact, metapsionic feats can be even more potent than metamagic feats by using Overchannel/Talented.</p><p></p><p>For example, Empowered Fireball is a 5th level spell that requires a 9th level Wizard.</p><p></p><p>A 9th level Psion can Empower a 7D6+7 Fire Energy power that is exactly equal in average damage to the 9D6 Empowered Fireball. However, the same 9th level Psion could Overchannel that to Empowered 9D6+9.</p><p></p><p>But even without Overchanneling it, the power levels for the two meta feats are basically equal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Psionic Meditation allows psions to use their psionic focus multiple times per combat. My 8th level psion uses her psionic focus 1 to 6 times per combat, mostly for Psionic Weapon.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Incorrect. Schism is like cheap auto-quicken every round. The 6 level difference is identical to the Quicken Power feat, the main differences are that you do not have to use up your psionic focus to accomplish it and multiple quickened powers via Schism are cheaper.</p><p></p><p>Plus, it is hard to disrupt any power manifested with Schism. Plus, Schism is an additional protection versus mind affecting powers/spells. Plus, if you use Schism on more than one round, it decreases the cost of your "quickened schismed powers" (in other words, 7 PP for Schism and three 1 PP Schismed Entangling Ectoplasms cost 10 PP total, 3 Quickened Entangling Ectoplasms costs 21 PP total).</p><p></p><p>The only advantage Quicken has over Schism is that the manifester level for Schism is 6 levels lower. However, there are a lot of powers like Entangling Ectoplasm where this does not make a difference.</p><p></p><p>Schism is better for some non-offensive powers. Quicken is better for offensive powers that have DCs or for powers where range or duration is a factor.</p><p></p><p>Effectively, taking Schism is like taking a power to replace the Quicken feat (and then some).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This does not have to be correct. Psionic displays can be totally muted with a Concentration roll. Not only that, a psion can use up his psionic focus to guarantee a Take 15 Concentration roll to do this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2270727, member: 2011"] I agree with most of what you said, but you have a few mistakes here: I do not understand this at all. Metapsionic feats are just as powerful as metamagic feats. In fact, metapsionic feats can be even more potent than metamagic feats by using Overchannel/Talented. For example, Empowered Fireball is a 5th level spell that requires a 9th level Wizard. A 9th level Psion can Empower a 7D6+7 Fire Energy power that is exactly equal in average damage to the 9D6 Empowered Fireball. However, the same 9th level Psion could Overchannel that to Empowered 9D6+9. But even without Overchanneling it, the power levels for the two meta feats are basically equal. Psionic Meditation allows psions to use their psionic focus multiple times per combat. My 8th level psion uses her psionic focus 1 to 6 times per combat, mostly for Psionic Weapon. Incorrect. Schism is like cheap auto-quicken every round. The 6 level difference is identical to the Quicken Power feat, the main differences are that you do not have to use up your psionic focus to accomplish it and multiple quickened powers via Schism are cheaper. Plus, it is hard to disrupt any power manifested with Schism. Plus, Schism is an additional protection versus mind affecting powers/spells. Plus, if you use Schism on more than one round, it decreases the cost of your "quickened schismed powers" (in other words, 7 PP for Schism and three 1 PP Schismed Entangling Ectoplasms cost 10 PP total, 3 Quickened Entangling Ectoplasms costs 21 PP total). The only advantage Quicken has over Schism is that the manifester level for Schism is 6 levels lower. However, there are a lot of powers like Entangling Ectoplasm where this does not make a difference. Schism is better for some non-offensive powers. Quicken is better for offensive powers that have DCs or for powers where range or duration is a factor. Effectively, taking Schism is like taking a power to replace the Quicken feat (and then some). This does not have to be correct. Psionic displays can be totally muted with a Concentration roll. Not only that, a psion can use up his psionic focus to guarantee a Take 15 Concentration roll to do this. [/QUOTE]
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