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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2273250" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>No kidding. I absolutely know that from my sorceress, who had only close range spells for a good while. But picking up one or two decent long range spell almost completely negated this. For me at least. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> That's why I think it would be similar for a psion. And there are some really good medium/long range powers available early one already, which continue to be useful to higher levels. While a huge amount of long range spells is better, of course, I don't think the difference between having just a few and a large number is that big effectively. The advantage in choice is there, of course.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, that's right. I'd have to look through the power list to see, if they really have nothing in that area. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Don't they have a power similar to <em>Gaseous Form</em>?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, please. <em>Psionic Dominate</em> is in almost all situations completely superior to <em>Dominate Person</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Protection from Evil</em> only makes you immune to natural attacks from summoned creatures that fail to apply their spell resistance. That's hardly immunity. It provides no protection whatsoever against astral constructs, those are not summoned.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I know how good defense is. I do not consider the globe spells to be that great, tho.</p><p></p><p>AC is also one of the most useful defensive boosts (along with being unable to get targeted, as you say, and spells/powers that grant a decent miss chance).</p><p></p><p>And being able to negate ability damage or being immune to grapple and movement hampering is also not to be underestimated.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here you were mixing something up. You replied to my answer to the 0th level spells. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not just I, mostly everyone says (according to numerous threads and polls on this site at least), that humans are among the most powerful +0 LA races (dwarves, too, of course).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm really not sure about that one. The augmentable "mass" powers are generally way earlier useable, and most often you only need a few targets, anyways.</p><p></p><p>Arcanists have more choice, since there simply are more spells out there, but I wouldn't say that these choices really are better than what psionicists get.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course. There are many factors to consider.</p><p></p><p>That's why I always say, that comparing stuff like damage dice per day doesn't really show anything useful, because it justs looks at a rather small fraction of the whole picture. You need to (at least try) to look at the whole picture to get a decent idea of the overall power level.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 2273250, member: 478"] No kidding. I absolutely know that from my sorceress, who had only close range spells for a good while. But picking up one or two decent long range spell almost completely negated this. For me at least. :) That's why I think it would be similar for a psion. And there are some really good medium/long range powers available early one already, which continue to be useful to higher levels. While a huge amount of long range spells is better, of course, I don't think the difference between having just a few and a large number is that big effectively. The advantage in choice is there, of course. Yes, that's right. I'd have to look through the power list to see, if they really have nothing in that area. :) Don't they have a power similar to [i]Gaseous Form[/i]? Oh, please. [i]Psionic Dominate[/i] is in almost all situations completely superior to [i]Dominate Person[/i]. [i]Protection from Evil[/i] only makes you immune to natural attacks from summoned creatures that fail to apply their spell resistance. That's hardly immunity. It provides no protection whatsoever against astral constructs, those are not summoned. Ok. No, I know how good defense is. I do not consider the globe spells to be that great, tho. AC is also one of the most useful defensive boosts (along with being unable to get targeted, as you say, and spells/powers that grant a decent miss chance). And being able to negate ability damage or being immune to grapple and movement hampering is also not to be underestimated. Here you were mixing something up. You replied to my answer to the 0th level spells. :D Not just I, mostly everyone says (according to numerous threads and polls on this site at least), that humans are among the most powerful +0 LA races (dwarves, too, of course). I'm really not sure about that one. The augmentable "mass" powers are generally way earlier useable, and most often you only need a few targets, anyways. Arcanists have more choice, since there simply are more spells out there, but I wouldn't say that these choices really are better than what psionicists get. Of course. There are many factors to consider. That's why I always say, that comparing stuff like damage dice per day doesn't really show anything useful, because it justs looks at a rather small fraction of the whole picture. You need to (at least try) to look at the whole picture to get a decent idea of the overall power level. :) Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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