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Message: <blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 2298899" data-attributes="member: 9002">It's also worth noting that fighter types are not "locked in" to doing full attacks that are only damage dealing.If you get 3 attacks a round at level 8 (thanks to boots of speed), you can use the last attack (at the lowest "to hit") to do a special manoevre such as trip, attack an object, etc. which greatly reduces the AC of the targeted subject.Nobody makes you use your worst attack vs. the high AC of the enemy...At most this requires one feat (to do a tricky attack like this, either disarm or trip or etc.) without provoking an AOO.  I don't think that's unreasonable for fighterly types, even a barbarian by level 8 or 9.You can also be additionally tricky by tripping with your 2nd or 1st attack, and using the +4 prone bonus to make up for the lower BAB, etc.Lots of options -- and only available when full attacking.</blockquote>