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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2307995" data-attributes="member: 5777">No, we are comparing something that is designed to do one thing to another which only 'can' do that one thing but also has lots of other uses.Like I said, answering one question instead of having to answer two is better. Even if we answered the question you were trying to pose we still have no real answers. Why try to answer a question when the answer wont matter?Specialist power that is primarily useful in melee combat and has little other use had better be better than the generalist one that has lots of different uses. If the second ties or beats the first then the first is 'highly' underpowered.And to diirk, it doesnt matter how good or bad summon monster is compared to astral construct, that is the point, they do different things. Besides, if you wanted to compare the two you would first have to show that summon monster is weak/strong/just right. The other points I was making that you quoted were bringing up that there were so many other factors clouding that issue that it just isnt worth going after.The sorc would likely only have to spend a few slots, each of those would grant much more versitility overall than the astral construct power and it is debateable which is more costly (a few slot choices or the feat, given that sorcs have more spells known than psions have powers known).Yet again though, the issue isnt which is better in their respective fields between summon monster and astral construct, it is simply if astral constructs are too powerful as written.To try to compare with with summon monster as a basis for determining overall balance wont work. We dont know if summon monster by itself is too weak/too strong/just right, we'd have to compare the strength of a specialist to the strength of a generalist, and then we'd have to compare use/cost ratios between the two. That is a lot of work and in the end we still havent answered the question of whether or not astral construct is too strong.</blockquote>

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