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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2310498" data-attributes="member: 5777">You are selectively reading my posts then <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Also, the systems are integrated easily and fit seemlessly. I have never seen any issue aside from asthetics (which are unimportant).Which is in line with what I said before, but completely ignores my question.I agree that targeting the psion to get rid of buffs is generally a good option, as it is vs just about every character ever, but some instantaneous spells/powers you wont get that option.Now, if you would be so kind as to answer the question?Yes, I missed them, they dont appear in my psionics handbook nor in the srd.What magical source are you drawing from? Maybe if I had this imaginary version I could understand where you are coming from.Until then though, I am going to stick with what I actually have.Also, just because something appears on the wiz list but not on the clr list or the other way around matters as much as if something is on the wiz list but not on the psi and the other way around and something on the clr list but not on the psion and the other way around. Each has something the others cant do. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses.If you point to one thing that the psions can do that the others cant then I'll point to something they can do that the psion cant. Since there are at least 3x as many spells as their are powers (many unique to magic) I'll have stuff left over to point out on magics side after you run out of things psions have.Now, I dont mean the imaginary material comment above to be snippy, but if you are going to say that something has an equivalent when it does not then I will have to assume you are making something up. Feel free to list the equivalent to each thing I put above, maybe I have missed them.(for the record: body adjustment is not the equivalent to any of the cures, the first is personal only, much less efficient, and cannot be used offensively. the only thing they do similarly is that they heal damage, but they are no where near equivalent.)I have to admit, I have zero idea what you are talking about here. Do you mean things like deathward, delay poison, and.. I dont know.. I havent a clue. This seems to be completely random so I am guessing it is just smoke and mirrors designed to confuse the issue.Please, I'd love to know 'what' you are trying to say here.So, the one that is the universal counter is a gimme. All right.How about mind blank? Spell turning? Offensively enervation is such a massive hit it is incredible (yes, much more so to psions than other caster types).Those have all already been given in this thread and there are others.But, I still have no idea what you mean by 'counters', the only thing I can think you mean are the spells like deathward or maybe haste vs slow. But those dont make any sense for this topic.</blockquote>

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