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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 2314394" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>Okey-dokey. But first lemme respond to this mistake:</p><p></p><p>I needed Spell focus(conjuration) for the Augment summoning feat. Looks a heck of a lot more like 3 feats spent.</p><p></p><p>That's more than the psion needs to....and the psion can use Overchannel for other things. And I'd love you to try to argue that the Spell focus(conjuration) is useful. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Anyway, here's the Q&A about my Clr 15:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The domain was originally from DorF, now updated to CD. It boosts my caster level with those spells by +2. This is a rather minor benefit, all things considered. It also makes many (but not all) summon monster spells domain spells. That's kinda nifty...see <em>Domain Sponteniety</em>.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Not even close. No <u>way</u>. Uh-uh...ain't gonna buy it. A +4 Str/+4 Con is equivalent to the Menu C choices?? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> Don't forget: with the <em>Boost Construct</em> feat, the psion may pick 2 options from menu C.</p><p></p><p>And you and I both know there's nothing weird about comparing A-C and SM. Stop "blowing smoke". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is to say: it allows him to do something the psion gets to do for free. Yep, it allows me to be closer to the psion's power level.</p><p></p><p>The feat is in CD.</p><p></p><p>As it was a house-rule, I thought posting it wasn't appropriate, so I just described it generally. But yes: you got the idea.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The light power <u>was</u> a flavor issue, as my Clr is a priest of the Sun. ...and light is actually a kinda quirky tactical advantage. After all, these SM are often meat-shields.</p><p></p><p>The Extra Turning gives me more turns for use with the Divine Summoner (house rule) feat.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you still think that, there's a problem. Look through some of the pure SM threads, if yer interested.</p><p></p><p>The Summon Monster/Summon Natures Ally tactic is good. (Ask my players when I DM!) Even without the feats and PrC. Even at higher levels.</p><p></p><p>But compare it to A-C....even without the Boost Construct and Overchannel.</p><p></p><p>The conclusion of a comparison (with feats and specialized or without feats and not specialized) is obvious; A-C is over-powered as written. Add in the fact that psions can do twice to three times as many high level A-C in a day than a regular spell caster, and you've got a whole truck-load of wacked.</p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nail, post: 2314394, member: 224"] Okey-dokey. But first lemme respond to this mistake: I needed Spell focus(conjuration) for the Augment summoning feat. Looks a heck of a lot more like 3 feats spent. That's more than the psion needs to....and the psion can use Overchannel for other things. And I'd love you to try to argue that the Spell focus(conjuration) is useful. :) Anyway, here's the Q&A about my Clr 15: The domain was originally from DorF, now updated to CD. It boosts my caster level with those spells by +2. This is a rather minor benefit, all things considered. It also makes many (but not all) summon monster spells domain spells. That's kinda nifty...see [i]Domain Sponteniety[/i]. Not even close. No [u]way[/u]. Uh-uh...ain't gonna buy it. A +4 Str/+4 Con is equivalent to the Menu C choices?? :confused: Don't forget: with the [i]Boost Construct[/i] feat, the psion may pick 2 options from menu C. And you and I both know there's nothing weird about comparing A-C and SM. Stop "blowing smoke". :) That is to say: it allows him to do something the psion gets to do for free. Yep, it allows me to be closer to the psion's power level. The feat is in CD. As it was a house-rule, I thought posting it wasn't appropriate, so I just described it generally. But yes: you got the idea. The light power [u]was[/u] a flavor issue, as my Clr is a priest of the Sun. ...and light is actually a kinda quirky tactical advantage. After all, these SM are often meat-shields. The Extra Turning gives me more turns for use with the Divine Summoner (house rule) feat. If you still think that, there's a problem. Look through some of the pure SM threads, if yer interested. The Summon Monster/Summon Natures Ally tactic is good. (Ask my players when I DM!) Even without the feats and PrC. Even at higher levels. But compare it to A-C....even without the Boost Construct and Overchannel. The conclusion of a comparison (with feats and specialized or without feats and not specialized) is obvious; A-C is over-powered as written. Add in the fact that psions can do twice to three times as many high level A-C in a day than a regular spell caster, and you've got a whole truck-load of wacked. :D [/QUOTE]
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