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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2321800" data-attributes="member: 5777">Just as much as repeating that it means little to nothing. If you had a commoner who was 5 levels below you walking around with your group everywhere and he was the only one to have survived every encounter that had happened so far that does not make the commoner overpowered, or even a good class.Most of this isnt especially useful against summoners except for the mageslayer feat, and that is what the rest of the party is for. So I am unsure how this is specifically targetting him.Now, it'd be a great thing against psions in general, but certain builds have different things they care about, same as with any class.Of course, if a BBEG specifically targets any one player over all others then that guy is in trouble. It doesnt matter who he is. Most buffs are so short in duration it is laughable, he is a d4 hd character anyway, and he is spending all of his time trying to hide away from guys to get off his 1 round manifesting time powers.So, since all of these would've been just as (in)effective against any other summoner character what does this prove?Oh, except the cleric, who has a much higher surviveability so being targetted wouldnt have mattered as much.At this point, if it was a full day of manifesting and other threats, I 'would' accuse the guy of cheating.Unless of course we have very different meanings of 'contribute significantly'.Of course, if he is spending half of his time protecting himself then he will have higher surviveability than the guy who is constantly trying to be offensive to the enemies.This psion of yours sounds way outside of the bubble. He has 'tons' of hp, 'tons' of pp, and somehow is never really significantly challenged except in very rare situations. He also always has time to put up buffs (which in 3.5 tend to be so short they are mostly worthless except when surprising an enemy).Now, I must be missing something from your gaming experience. A few bits of info that have not been mentioned. Otherwise, we are very, very far into the 'highly improbably' side of the equation.Just because something can happen one in a billion times does not make it a problem per se, merely a probabilitical anomaly.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Noted. Now, what does it mean? SR + Save + makes the target immune to almost everything and is easy for a teamate to break them out of it, but cuts off their actions. I guess the problem was a no SR, failed save, no buddies bad guy who was carried back to town (or kept in it long enough for everyone to buff up)? It is basically the psionic version of forcecage, with a few differences. Eh, it does what it does very well, so long as you use it properly and dont let people make up rules for it you'll be fine. (all changes must be legal for the level you are reforming, it costs a bunch of exp, etc) Dragon magazine has a good habit of producing all powerful things. This has zero to do with psionics. They could've easily made it a magic spell and people would just say,'wow, another broken spell', but if they make it psionic people start thinking psionics are the problem.. weird.. You dont like people useing a move action + pp to take a move action? I am confused. It can help to get over terrain you might have otherwise needed to make some sort of skill check for, but it is a psychic warrior only power which takes a bunch of pp and takes you only a very short distance. What 'trouble' could it have caused? Umm.. ok.. we are reading different books again. Most spells and powers have durations which are too short to be useful to begin with. 1min/level or less is basically only good in surprise situations where you have surprise, otherwise taking a round out of combat to put it up just isnt worth it (or it is insanely powerful of course). The psionic powers have the same problem that the spells do. Some have a good duration, most do not.</li> </ul></blockquote>

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