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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2332064" data-attributes="member: 5777">You keep on shifting what you are going for, but I keep trying to tell you the same thing anyway. I'll try it in a slightly different way this time.Apparently you feel that AC is unbalanced in some way. Given this you have said that, 'compared to SM AC is unabalanced in some way'. I have said, 'that isnt helpful, each has a different emphasis and they do very different things' To which you replied something like, 'well, I want to compare them anyway'. So then I mentioned that you would need a few things in order to make this a useful comparison at all.First of all, you will need to show that SM is balanced. You believe it is apparently, so prove it in some way. Without this we wont even know what we are comparing to. Any conclusions reached will be worse than useless because they will be misleading.Secondly, we will need some ground work. Over which range are we talking? All encounters? only certain types? Anything from the various manuals? Etc etc.It may turn out that SM is good in situations A, B, and C while AC is good in situations X, Y, Z. But then SM can be used in situations X, Y, and Z to some degree that is below the AC's ability, but AC has essentially zero impact on A, B, and C. Who wins then?Also, you have put up your cleric guy who beats the psion out of the water in very nearly every field possible, and yet it is a problem for some reason that one of the few things the psion can still maybe do better in certain circumstances.. so much of a problem that you want him beat with the nerf stick apparently. Given just how good the cleric is in so many other areas I would not blame the psion to be wanting a major buff 'and' to beat the cleric guy with the nerf stick.Yet here we are. You want a comparison and when I ask you to lay out the groundwork and some of your reasonings for the side of comparison you should feel more comfortable with there is no information coming. I am not sure if you are working on it or if it is just something etheral that is floating around with the golden sign of, 'it is core, therefor it must be balanced'Eh, you are the one who is gung-ho about this comparison, I just want it to be done correctly if it is going to be done for some reason.So please, stop jumping around on subjects and ignoring the question. If you want to do this comparison then the groundwork needs to be laid out. If it isnt then what could you possibly hope for?</blockquote>

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