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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 2335939" data-attributes="member: 3146">Just as long as you're admitting that Astral Constructs are tougher than Summoned Monsters...Actually, Summon Monster and Summon Nature's Ally top out at the same place (elder elementals at level 9) so the high level comparison doesn't get any more favorable to core rules than the low level comparison, but the lower level SNAs are unquestionably better than the lower level Summon Monsters. (The only thing that Summon Monster has going for it in the comparison is that protection from evil or magic circle vs. evil doesn't shut it down completely--that and maybe the dretch if you can tell it what to do and get it to do what you want).</blockquote>