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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Seeten" data-source="post: 2339841" data-attributes="member: 27186">Some realistic tests: Make a pure Summoner Arcane Caster with all the feats, As I am Necromantically inclined, try a Necromancer/Pale Master with the Libris Mortis Feat trees for Corpse Crafting, and a Psion Shaper with all the appropriate feats to make AC Better.Then check the Animated Dead with the AC's. I'd be interested in which is better. Once done, make a Cleric with an appropriate PrC focused on summoning, and all the summoner feats, and check it against the Psion Shaper.When done, try a base druid against an Egoist, all wildshape feats/natural spells, and see who shapechanges/spell casts better, the Egoist, or the Druid.I am pretty confident in each of these, the Psion makes a reasonable, but less powerful alternative, and keep in mine, in each case, this is ONE type of Psion, and shapers are not egoists are not telepaths etc.</blockquote>