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<blockquote data-quote="Obscure" data-source="post: 2408770" data-attributes="member: 22508"><p>I agree with Aelryinth's calculation that the damage in this case should have been 30d6, not 36d6 or 52d6. And that's assuming that Twin Spell applies to Scorching Ray, which, as Claudio mentioned, is arguable.</p><p></p><p>I asked Keith Baker about Metamagic Item on the Ask Keith Baker thread over at WotC. It's his opinion (technically not official) that he wouldn't allow multiple stacking of metamagic feats with a wand. You can cast MI once to apply one feat, but if you cast it again, the second casting replaces the first (doesn't stack). </p><p></p><p>So, at most, you can have three "damage increasing" metamagic feats applying to the wand: 1) one applied during the creation of the wand (i.e., Empower), 2) one applied with Metamagic Item (no extra charge cost), 3) one applied with the metamagic spell trigger ability (extra charge cost).</p><p></p><p>Keith also said that if you want to be strict about it, you can rule that 2) and 3) don't stack together -- so maximum two damaging metagmagic feats.</p><p></p><p>So a Blastifer can really only have Empower plus one or two other metamagic feats applying to a Scorching Ray wand (in KB's opinion).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obscure, post: 2408770, member: 22508"] I agree with Aelryinth's calculation that the damage in this case should have been 30d6, not 36d6 or 52d6. And that's assuming that Twin Spell applies to Scorching Ray, which, as Claudio mentioned, is arguable. I asked Keith Baker about Metamagic Item on the Ask Keith Baker thread over at WotC. It's his opinion (technically not official) that he wouldn't allow multiple stacking of metamagic feats with a wand. You can cast MI once to apply one feat, but if you cast it again, the second casting replaces the first (doesn't stack). So, at most, you can have three "damage increasing" metamagic feats applying to the wand: 1) one applied during the creation of the wand (i.e., Empower), 2) one applied with Metamagic Item (no extra charge cost), 3) one applied with the metamagic spell trigger ability (extra charge cost). Keith also said that if you want to be strict about it, you can rule that 2) and 3) don't stack together -- so maximum two damaging metagmagic feats. So a Blastifer can really only have Empower plus one or two other metamagic feats applying to a Scorching Ray wand (in KB's opinion). [/QUOTE]
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