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<blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 8073220" data-attributes="member: 6775477"><p>I would love this. People could accept what they like, and ignore the rest. Of course, I feel they should open up all the old settings.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not speaking for all TGFs, but I really just want to be ignored. [USER=7023840]@Snarf Zagyg[/USER] pointed out, we've been burned a LOT. WotC turning Greyhawk into the default pretty much destroyed the setting, because pretty much no one knows what it actually is anymore. </p><p></p><p>If we did have a 5E book, while I'd like it to be Gygaxian (pre-1985), I know it won't be. I can accept some changes, but would like to see a few more that puts things back a bit in balance by advancing the timeline a few more years (Great Kingdom, Iuz, and Scarlet Brotherhood need addressed). Progressing to some new rulers would help, changing up the political landscape a bit. Oh, and cleaning up some of the half-baked lore on a lot of named NPCs would be nice. Mechanically, not very much needs to be done: some Factions, divine domains for the various gods, the traditional gnome, Tallfellow Halflings, Valley Elves, and maybe some suggestions on how to incorporate non-standard races if desired.</p><p></p><p>The best way to grow the setting isn't with nostalgia, despite the desire by grognards by me. The best way is to go back the roots of what made Greyhawk great. Give descriptions about the world, but leave suggestions for filling in the blanks. Mention the powerful NPCs that work behind the scenes, especially the Circle of Eight, so that the DM can use them for inspiration (not to pull an Elminster). Give examples of sword and sorcery style "heroes" to inspire players with the world's moral ambiguity. Greyhawk is an epic battle between the forces of Law and Chaos, Good and Evil, but with Neutrality evening the scales whenever it starts to tip too far. These are the things that make Greyhawk different from the Realms and other standard fantasy campaigns.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shiroiken, post: 8073220, member: 6775477"] I would love this. People could accept what they like, and ignore the rest. Of course, I feel they should open up all the old settings. Not speaking for all TGFs, but I really just want to be ignored. [USER=7023840]@Snarf Zagyg[/USER] pointed out, we've been burned a LOT. WotC turning Greyhawk into the default pretty much destroyed the setting, because pretty much no one knows what it actually is anymore. If we did have a 5E book, while I'd like it to be Gygaxian (pre-1985), I know it won't be. I can accept some changes, but would like to see a few more that puts things back a bit in balance by advancing the timeline a few more years (Great Kingdom, Iuz, and Scarlet Brotherhood need addressed). Progressing to some new rulers would help, changing up the political landscape a bit. Oh, and cleaning up some of the half-baked lore on a lot of named NPCs would be nice. Mechanically, not very much needs to be done: some Factions, divine domains for the various gods, the traditional gnome, Tallfellow Halflings, Valley Elves, and maybe some suggestions on how to incorporate non-standard races if desired. The best way to grow the setting isn't with nostalgia, despite the desire by grognards by me. The best way is to go back the roots of what made Greyhawk great. Give descriptions about the world, but leave suggestions for filling in the blanks. Mention the powerful NPCs that work behind the scenes, especially the Circle of Eight, so that the DM can use them for inspiration (not to pull an Elminster). Give examples of sword and sorcery style "heroes" to inspire players with the world's moral ambiguity. Greyhawk is an epic battle between the forces of Law and Chaos, Good and Evil, but with Neutrality evening the scales whenever it starts to tip too far. These are the things that make Greyhawk different from the Realms and other standard fantasy campaigns. [/QUOTE]
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