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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8077608" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>The only parta of this I agree with is that life is full of choices and that Trans-rights and Thermodynamics are complex subjects that require some grounding to fully understand. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The rest of your post is condescending towards me. </p><p></p><p>I haven't "systematically avoided" Sword and Sorcerery" novels. They simply aren't the novels I have ever read. I read Butcher, Rothfuss, Sanderson, Raymond E. Feist, Patricia Briggs, Ilona Andrews, Kim Harrison, Tamora Pierce, Piers Anonthy, Neil Gaiman (Though I still have not found time or money to get a copy of American Gods), David Eddings. </p><p></p><p>But, I suppose I have just read the wrong fantasy, liked the wrong subject matters, I am simply too ignorant to enjoy Greyhawk because of my choices in media. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And if that is true, then Greyhawk is a dead setting. Because the majority of my friends read way less than me, and none of them to my knowledge have even heard of some of the authors you feel are essential, let alone read them. And, if you can't even discuss why it might be worth publishing a setting if you don't have the "proper" fictional education, then as a business decision it would be monumentally stupid to try and sell it. Because, the moment some new person wonders into the store, and see the book asking "hey what's that and why should I buy it?" They will get told what I'm being told. If you haven't read Conan or Moorcock, you are too ignorant to understand what this is, go read those first, then we will tell you why you should buy this setting and run it. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, I think that is untrue, and BS. Luckily, I have experience with the fans of a setting turning me off of something that turns out is incredibly good. I spent a period of time hating Eberron because of certain posters. To the point where I almost didn't join the Eberron game I am in, because the DM asked for us to have knowledge of the setting, and that was a red flag due to the people I had spoken with before. </p><p></p><p>But, after talking to the DM, and after seeing some of the cool things, I started diving in and love the setting now. However, no setting is going to survive if the fans response to someone who doesn't know the lingo is "Well, actually, you are too ignorant to enjoy this"</p><p></p><p>And, this isn't just directed at you. I see the likes on your post, unless those are soley directed at bashing Butcher and Sanderson, they agree that I am simply too ignorant to like Greyhawk.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, two of my favorite authors who have drawn me deep into their worlds and characters. </p><p></p><p>But, I guess that is just me being too ignorant to understand again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8077608, member: 6801228"] The only parta of this I agree with is that life is full of choices and that Trans-rights and Thermodynamics are complex subjects that require some grounding to fully understand. The rest of your post is condescending towards me. I haven't "systematically avoided" Sword and Sorcerery" novels. They simply aren't the novels I have ever read. I read Butcher, Rothfuss, Sanderson, Raymond E. Feist, Patricia Briggs, Ilona Andrews, Kim Harrison, Tamora Pierce, Piers Anonthy, Neil Gaiman (Though I still have not found time or money to get a copy of American Gods), David Eddings. But, I suppose I have just read the wrong fantasy, liked the wrong subject matters, I am simply too ignorant to enjoy Greyhawk because of my choices in media. And if that is true, then Greyhawk is a dead setting. Because the majority of my friends read way less than me, and none of them to my knowledge have even heard of some of the authors you feel are essential, let alone read them. And, if you can't even discuss why it might be worth publishing a setting if you don't have the "proper" fictional education, then as a business decision it would be monumentally stupid to try and sell it. Because, the moment some new person wonders into the store, and see the book asking "hey what's that and why should I buy it?" They will get told what I'm being told. If you haven't read Conan or Moorcock, you are too ignorant to understand what this is, go read those first, then we will tell you why you should buy this setting and run it. Now, I think that is untrue, and BS. Luckily, I have experience with the fans of a setting turning me off of something that turns out is incredibly good. I spent a period of time hating Eberron because of certain posters. To the point where I almost didn't join the Eberron game I am in, because the DM asked for us to have knowledge of the setting, and that was a red flag due to the people I had spoken with before. But, after talking to the DM, and after seeing some of the cool things, I started diving in and love the setting now. However, no setting is going to survive if the fans response to someone who doesn't know the lingo is "Well, actually, you are too ignorant to enjoy this" And, this isn't just directed at you. I see the likes on your post, unless those are soley directed at bashing Butcher and Sanderson, they agree that I am simply too ignorant to like Greyhawk. Well, two of my favorite authors who have drawn me deep into their worlds and characters. But, I guess that is just me being too ignorant to understand again. [/QUOTE]
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