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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8077675" data-attributes="member: 18">That you agree on those, but not on Sword and Sorcery is a result of your ignorance re: S&S.Um, okay? Your entire attitude here is one of extreme entitlement and false victimhood.You've chosen to remain ignorant, and are proud to remain ignorant, and angry (by your own words) that people have suggested maybe you spend a tiny bit of time dealing with that ignorance.I don't really understand why you don't get it. You demand a seat at the table. You demand you to be taken seriously. You are angry that you're "excluded" just because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. This is pretty close to peak entitlement. Not sure what else to tell you. It's fine to say "I don't get it", but it's not fine to say stuff like "If u cant explan it 2 me, its dumb stuff 4 dummies", which is basically what you did.I know you really want to be a victim here, but you're not. You're not "too ignorant to enjoy the setting". You might well enjoy it just fine, just like you did with Eberron. However, you're too ignorant to have a place in arguing about the quality of the setting.Taste and ignorance are different, if interrelated things, so no it's not ignorant to like them. But neither are particularly good writers by any even semi-objective criterion beside "selling books" (in which case various trashy romance novel writers are pretty much "peak writer") or, in Sanderson's case, coming up with internally consistent magic/superpowers systems. Neither is terrible, either, note. There's a lot of fantasy worse than Sanderson and Butcher. Sarah J. Maas springs immediately to mind as someone who has sold an awful lot of books but is absolutely terrible (literally the only interesting or clever thing about her extremely lengthy first novel is that the main character actually has some human physical failings which most authors ignore). There are good fantasy writers I can't stand, too - like KJ Parker (not to be confused with RJ Barker!), who is very talented, but oh god I can't take books where every single character would probably leave the world a better place if they were dead.American Gods is possibly the worst thing Gaiman has ever written.Change my mind.</blockquote>

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