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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8079849" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Well, I guess I'm sorry I thought you cared about the setting. </p><p></p><p>But I'm not sorry for my response, because again, this isn't exactly a highly nuanced discussion. We aren't talking about specific symbolism tied to specific cultural eras and how the zeigeist of the setting was inspired by yadda yadda yadda. </p><p></p><p>I was literally just asking "what makes this a setting that WoTC can hook new players into buying, what makes it worth selling" and, when people said "it is sword and sorcerery" I was honest. Sorry, that doesn't tell me anything. </p><p></p><p>And then I started getting shut out of the conversation. </p><p></p><p>Which, since I was actually interested in seeing people's opinions, and wanting to give an honest shot at understanding Greyhawk, annoyed me. Because, if I can't even ask what the hook for the setting is, without being told to go somewhere else if I am not willing to educate myself, then if I put myself in the shoes of a consumer, I immediately see the product failing.</p><p></p><p>But, I am being told that the problem is me. I'm being unreasonable in very honestly saying that I don't know the genre, and that I don't really have time to go out and start researching it. </p><p></p><p>Honestly, I don't even know why I'm bothering to respond to your post, because you don't care. You seem disgusted with me for not having the background in fantasy literature, nor the time and motivation to go and rectify that gap. And you don't seem to believe that I deserve to know anything about Greyhawk until I do. </p><p></p><p>Fine. I don't need Greyhawk. And you aren't interested in selling it to me. That might be why the setting is still languishing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly this. Telling someone "you have to be this educated to be allowed to discuss the setting at all" does nothing but drive people away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8079849, member: 6801228"] Well, I guess I'm sorry I thought you cared about the setting. But I'm not sorry for my response, because again, this isn't exactly a highly nuanced discussion. We aren't talking about specific symbolism tied to specific cultural eras and how the zeigeist of the setting was inspired by yadda yadda yadda. I was literally just asking "what makes this a setting that WoTC can hook new players into buying, what makes it worth selling" and, when people said "it is sword and sorcerery" I was honest. Sorry, that doesn't tell me anything. And then I started getting shut out of the conversation. Which, since I was actually interested in seeing people's opinions, and wanting to give an honest shot at understanding Greyhawk, annoyed me. Because, if I can't even ask what the hook for the setting is, without being told to go somewhere else if I am not willing to educate myself, then if I put myself in the shoes of a consumer, I immediately see the product failing. But, I am being told that the problem is me. I'm being unreasonable in very honestly saying that I don't know the genre, and that I don't really have time to go out and start researching it. Honestly, I don't even know why I'm bothering to respond to your post, because you don't care. You seem disgusted with me for not having the background in fantasy literature, nor the time and motivation to go and rectify that gap. And you don't seem to believe that I deserve to know anything about Greyhawk until I do. Fine. I don't need Greyhawk. And you aren't interested in selling it to me. That might be why the setting is still languishing. Exactly this. Telling someone "you have to be this educated to be allowed to discuss the setting at all" does nothing but drive people away. [/QUOTE]
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